Posted on 08/19/2011 5:24:40 PM PDT by Mozilla
I just read a very bizarre blog post about entrenched incumbent Utah Sen. Orrin Hatch by Fox News anchor Greta van Susteren and then watched an equally distressing interview van Susteren conducted last night with Sarah Palin regarding Hatch.
First, the title of van Susteren’s blog post: “Is someone trying to manipulate the UTAH Tea Party vote unfairly away from Senator Orrin Hatch?”
Van Susteren absurdly suggests that dark, sinister, unnamed, and uninformed forces in Utah with outside backing are somehow trying to take away Hatch’s seat through nefarious means. She’s clearly talking about D.C.-based fiscal conservative groups like FreedomWorks and Club for Growth that support possible GOP primary challenger and current Rep. Jason Chaffetz (whom I also support). But she won’t come out and just name these groups. What gives?
Moreover, she fails to explain how it’s bad for a few Beltway-based groups to “manipulate” the race by encouraging primary challengers, but it’s fine for Beltway-based van Sustern to influence readers with her ill-informed dissection of the race and her promotion of Hatch’s purported Tea Party bona fides.
Hatch’s people have lined up big national guns from outside Utah to help him hold on to his power and perks. It seems clear to me Hatch is calling in every last chit he has amassed over four decades in the Beltway. It’s the only rational explanation for the beyond-laughable promotion of Hatch as a — gag — “Tea Party visionary.”
[snip]
Utah voters themselves sent a clear, potent message that entrenched incumbency is no argument for more entrenched incumbency last May when they booted Hatch’s Senate big government Republican colleague Bob Bennett from office in the primary. Were they “manipulated,” too?
Van Susteren’s sloppy blog post (which doesn’t include a single hyperlink) provides erroneous facts about the Tea Party movement, erroneous characterizations of the core Tea Party agenda, and erroneous analysis of Hatch’s fiscal record after three decades in office. After insinuating that unprincipled motives are fueling those who oppose Hatch, she wraps up with a rather specious conclusion that based on Hatch’s creaky old support for the balanced budget amendment, she “would think that fact alone would make him the champion (the visionary?) of the Utah Tea Party.”
She ends with a question: “Am I wrong?”
Flabbergastingly so.
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Orrin Hatch is the antithesis of the Tea Party spirit. He is a mascot for big-spending Beltway entrenched incumbency who has consistently joined hands with destructive Democrats.
He slobbered over corruptocrat Democratic Sen. Chris Dodd.
He co-sponsored the $6 billion national service boondoggle and dedicated it to his good friend Teddy Kennedy, with whom he also joined hands to create the ever-expanding SCHIP entitlement.
He supported tax cheat Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner from day one, lavished praise on Joe Biden’s balls, and embraced and defended Attorney General Eric Holder’s nomination because, he said, “I like Barack Obama and I want to help him if I can.”
He was an original sponsor of the open-borders DREAM Act illegal alien student bailout and voted for the massive TARP bailout.
And there’s much, much more from his support for Fannie/Freddie bailouts to farm subsidies and beyond.
Most importantly: How do Utah Tea Party people feel about Tea Party pretender Orrin Hatch?
The same way they feel about his former big-spending entrenched incumbent in Utah — former Sen. Bob Bennett…
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And yet on her TV show interview with Sarah Palin Thursday night, van Susteren accused Tea Party folks of factual omissions.
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She then went on to minimize opposition to Hatch as “small” and criticized Hatch’s critics as “disruptive.” Van Susteren looked perplexed and irked that Tea Party people would want to turn out an elected incumbent in the Republican Party.
Hello? From day one, the nascent Tea Party movement has always been about holding both parties accountable for their records. “Disruption” of Washington business as usual is the entire raison d’etre of the grass-roots revolts and out-of-control taxing and spending. Token support for a balanced budget amendment means nothing if the BBA sponsor has spent nearly 40 years — as Hatch has — rubber-stamping expansion after expansion of the welfare and entitlement state, then hooking up with corruptocrat Dems like Chris Dodd and Teddy Kennedy to preserve and protect pet boondoggles.
Most devastating of all, Palin offered ZERO rebuttal of van Susteren’s nonsense and agreed that Tea Party folks should “work with” Hatch instead of “shoving him out.”
VAN SUSTEREN: You know, I see a lot of good, hard-working Americans who are in the Tea Party movement. And then, you know, from time to time, I see things like — you know, today — today, I wrote on Gretawire a blog about what’s going on within the Tea Party movement to Senator Orrin Hatch. I mean, he’s getting attacking by a small portion of the Tea Party movement for not being Tea Party-ish enough, and it’s — and it fundamentally goes around the balanced budget amendment, which is so — which is the mantra of the Tea Party movement.
But if you do a little research, Senator Orrin Hatch going back to 1979 in the U.S. Senate was pushing the Tea Party — a balanced budget amendment. Yet some of these people in the Tea Party movement won’t recognize it. They won’t look at the facts and they go after him. So it’s, like, even within the Tea Party movement, there is — you know, there’s a disregard for the facts and an effort to be sort of disruptive even within the — within the group.
PALIN: Well, and you’ll find that within any venue, within any group, Greta, especially when it involves politics. But to your particular point about Senator Orrin Hatch — he is doing good in terms of trying to get a balanced budget and he has been for the last couple of decades. And he’s pushed hard for some fiscal reforms that we have got to see implemented, otherwise, you know, crony capitalism is going to continue coming out of Washington, D.C., and we’re going to continue on the wrong path and we will be bankrupt.
So people like Orrin Hatch, who now especially — he’s rising up with quite aggressive talk about the balanced budget amendment and other things that he has seen for all these years need to be done. We need to be agreeing and embracing his idea and working with him to make sure that that happens, instead of shooing him away and shooing him out of a Tea Party movement, if you will, when he agrees with such a basic fundamental principle that we must see implemented, and that’s just simply balancing the doggone federal budget!
Is this the same Palin who just a few weeks ago boldly (and rightly) wrote: “Everyone I talk to still believes in contested primaries.”
Well Jesus said...*By there fruits* we will know....
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No offense taken.He made a malicious charge and failed to offer any facts or explanation.He only played games.That my friend is deception and if you want to hang out with someone of that low of a caliber that is up to you.Seeking truth and clarification is not mean-spirited,nor is it unfounded.
“Some people do not worship false idols....”
By defending a blatant deceiver, you my friend ARE worshiping idols and not the True God.
No offense intended.
Maybe it is from his perspective and opinion...
Don’t you think that is what the majority of Palin Supporters might do as well?
We support Politicians based on how we perceive them, by what they say and thier record.....
IMHO some conservative christians like myself for one, can be a bit turned off to people, who seem to make any Politician a *Saviour* we seen that with Obama and people holding him up as the coming *Messiah*
When anyone puts another person on such a Pedestal that they can *Fix* everything people are unhappy with, they guaranteed to be dis-appointed....
We should look for honesty, integrity, family values and someone who will up-hold the Constitution of the United States in our politicians...However if we really, really want *Change, healing and restoration* we need to give that to only ONE that is worthy....
2 Chronicles 7:14
if my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then will I hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and will heal their land.
“Don’t you think that is what the majority of Palin Supporters might do as well?”
SOME of her supporters maybe could be classified as “bots” I’m not one.I support her because of what I’ve read and seen of her.If another were doing and saying the things she does I would support them.
“We support Politicians based on how we perceive them, by what they say and thier record.....”
That is why I stand WITH her and don’t slobber all over her pumps.
“IMHO some conservative christians like myself for one, can be a bit turned off to people, who seem to make any Politician a *Saviour* we seen that with Obama and people holding him up as the coming *Messiah*”
I don’t think for one minute Gov.Palin can fix things on her own.I just believe her to be a strong leader and if you were to ask her I would imagine she would tell you she needs all the help she can get.I agree with you on that is how we got that Islamic commie fraud currently stinking up our White House.
“When anyone puts another person on such a Pedestal that they can *Fix* everything people are unhappy with, they guaranteed to be dis-appointed....”
A very true statement,is why I refuse to put anyone on a pedistal.
“We should look for honesty, integrity, family values and someone who will up-hold the Constitution of the United States in our politicians...”
I see this in Gov.Palin
“.However if we really, really want *Change, healing and restoration* we need to give that to only ONE that is worthy....”
For this reason He suffered,died and was resurected.Yes He is the only one worthy.
As for your friend you were defending,all I asked for was some facts or clarification.In this he refused repeatadly and to me this is true deception.All he had to do was tell us straight up why he was thinking as he did and I would either have politly agreed or disagreed and left it at that.
Remember Jesus told us,”Beware lest you be decieved” Not once but twice!
Paul went further and warned us of false teachers.Now I understand you admire your friend,he seems an intellegent fellow but I have a problem with people who make a charge against ANYONE, and not back it up with facts or at least clarification.
ABSOLUTELY INDEED.
Of course there couldn’t be ANY
lofty, biased, hyper-sensive labeling involved.
A PTB Marxist Oligarchy globalist hit?
If anyone in ST Louis has any further info, please let us know.
BTW, group—Prayers are in order . . . . . Dutchsinse’s best friend was shot by two blokes in a Black Humvee with AK47’s—I think last night. Is in the hospital with all limbs and trunk shot. IT’s unclear what the prognosis is.
The only clue is it happened the same week that YouTube shut down his ?channel?
“I’m making no promises about Romney.”
I consider Romknee to be another McCain. Both cause the bile to rise in my throat.
Hatch may be somewhat more conservative than McCain and Lugar, but he’s clearly part of the problem in Washington. America can no longer afford establishment Republicans who care more about the etiquette of the Senate country club than they do about standing up for conservative principles. This isn’t the first time that Palin has made a dubious endorsement of an establishment GOP incumbent. Neither she or Bachmann are as free of establishment entanglements as they’d like us to believe. You don’t get the $$$ unless you’re prepared to play ball with some segment of the establshment.
“Its a good thing I got my membership card in the mail last week, then.”
I think you might be joshing me, because surely you know that secretive organizations don’t have membership cards, just secret handshakes and code words. When and where was your initiation?
I just wanted to throw off the “others.”
I was initiated when the bright star crossed the dark rock upon a fortnight of the wolf. It was in a secret location at 935 Pennsylvania Avenue, Washington DC, 20535.
“I was initiated when the bright star crossed the dark rock upon a fortnight of the wolf. It was in a secret location at 935 Pennsylvania Avenue, Washington DC, 20535.”
Well, that certainly validates your membership, but I must warn you that providing the details in your post is not acceptable membership behavior. That could lead to unwanted heathens attempting to find out more about the organization by camping out at known initiation locations.
OTOH, you can be proud that many of the most accomplished members were initiated during the fortnight of the wolf. We shall lead the spies to believe the bright star was a satellite and the dark rock was Enchanted Rock in Central Texas. Of course we won’t mention anything about Wolf Blitzer.
Next, we shall ~6&)={[| during *^$`\>
Its part of my job as resident agitator to make sure that millions flood the area in attempt to bog down the “system”
Enchanted Rock is where I first met the elders, before climbing up a giant round rock that doesnt really have anything but tiny caves. You cana hide lots of Ameros there.
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