Posted on 08/19/2011 5:24:40 PM PDT by Mozilla
I just read a very bizarre blog post about entrenched incumbent Utah Sen. Orrin Hatch by Fox News anchor Greta van Susteren and then watched an equally distressing interview van Susteren conducted last night with Sarah Palin regarding Hatch.
First, the title of van Susterens blog post: Is someone trying to manipulate the UTAH Tea Party vote unfairly away from Senator Orrin Hatch?
Van Susteren absurdly suggests that dark, sinister, unnamed, and uninformed forces in Utah with outside backing are somehow trying to take away Hatchs seat through nefarious means. Shes clearly talking about D.C.-based fiscal conservative groups like FreedomWorks and Club for Growth that support possible GOP primary challenger and current Rep. Jason Chaffetz (whom I also support). But she wont come out and just name these groups. What gives?
Moreover, she fails to explain how its bad for a few Beltway-based groups to manipulate the race by encouraging primary challengers, but its fine for Beltway-based van Sustern to influence readers with her ill-informed dissection of the race and her promotion of Hatchs purported Tea Party bona fides.
Hatchs people have lined up big national guns from outside Utah to help him hold on to his power and perks. It seems clear to me Hatch is calling in every last chit he has amassed over four decades in the Beltway. Its the only rational explanation for the beyond-laughable promotion of Hatch as a gag Tea Party visionary.
[snip]
Utah voters themselves sent a clear, potent message that entrenched incumbency is no argument for more entrenched incumbency last May when they booted Hatchs Senate big government Republican colleague Bob Bennett from office in the primary. Were they manipulated, too?
Van Susterens sloppy blog post (which doesnt include a single hyperlink) provides erroneous facts about the Tea Party movement, erroneous characterizations of the core Tea Party agenda, and erroneous analysis of Hatchs fiscal record after three decades in office. After insinuating that unprincipled motives are fueling those who oppose Hatch, she wraps up with a rather specious conclusion that based on Hatchs creaky old support for the balanced budget amendment, she would think that fact alone would make him the champion (the visionary?) of the Utah Tea Party.
She ends with a question: Am I wrong?
Flabbergastingly so.
[snip]
Orrin Hatch is the antithesis of the Tea Party spirit. He is a mascot for big-spending Beltway entrenched incumbency who has consistently joined hands with destructive Democrats.
He slobbered over corruptocrat Democratic Sen. Chris Dodd.
He co-sponsored the $6 billion national service boondoggle and dedicated it to his good friend Teddy Kennedy, with whom he also joined hands to create the ever-expanding SCHIP entitlement.
He supported tax cheat Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner from day one, lavished praise on Joe Bidens balls, and embraced and defended Attorney General Eric Holders nomination because, he said, I like Barack Obama and I want to help him if I can.
He was an original sponsor of the open-borders DREAM Act illegal alien student bailout and voted for the massive TARP bailout.
And theres much, much more from his support for Fannie/Freddie bailouts to farm subsidies and beyond.
Most importantly: How do Utah Tea Party people feel about Tea Party pretender Orrin Hatch?
The same way they feel about his former big-spending entrenched incumbent in Utah former Sen. Bob Bennett
[snip]
And yet on her TV show interview with Sarah Palin Thursday night, van Susteren accused Tea Party folks of factual omissions.
[snip]
She then went on to minimize opposition to Hatch as small and criticized Hatchs critics as disruptive. Van Susteren looked perplexed and irked that Tea Party people would want to turn out an elected incumbent in the Republican Party.
Hello? From day one, the nascent Tea Party movement has always been about holding both parties accountable for their records. Disruption of Washington business as usual is the entire raison detre of the grass-roots revolts and out-of-control taxing and spending. Token support for a balanced budget amendment means nothing if the BBA sponsor has spent nearly 40 years as Hatch has rubber-stamping expansion after expansion of the welfare and entitlement state, then hooking up with corruptocrat Dems like Chris Dodd and Teddy Kennedy to preserve and protect pet boondoggles.
Most devastating of all, Palin offered ZERO rebuttal of van Susterens nonsense and agreed that Tea Party folks should work with Hatch instead of shoving him out.
VAN SUSTEREN: You know, I see a lot of good, hard-working Americans who are in the Tea Party movement. And then, you know, from time to time, I see things like you know, today today, I wrote on Gretawire a blog about whats going on within the Tea Party movement to Senator Orrin Hatch. I mean, hes getting attacking by a small portion of the Tea Party movement for not being Tea Party-ish enough, and its and it fundamentally goes around the balanced budget amendment, which is so which is the mantra of the Tea Party movement.
But if you do a little research, Senator Orrin Hatch going back to 1979 in the U.S. Senate was pushing the Tea Party a balanced budget amendment. Yet some of these people in the Tea Party movement wont recognize it. They wont look at the facts and they go after him. So its, like, even within the Tea Party movement, there is you know, theres a disregard for the facts and an effort to be sort of disruptive even within the within the group.
PALIN: Well, and youll find that within any venue, within any group, Greta, especially when it involves politics. But to your particular point about Senator Orrin Hatch he is doing good in terms of trying to get a balanced budget and he has been for the last couple of decades. And hes pushed hard for some fiscal reforms that we have got to see implemented, otherwise, you know, crony capitalism is going to continue coming out of Washington, D.C., and were going to continue on the wrong path and we will be bankrupt.
So people like Orrin Hatch, who now especially hes rising up with quite aggressive talk about the balanced budget amendment and other things that he has seen for all these years need to be done. We need to be agreeing and embracing his idea and working with him to make sure that that happens, instead of shooing him away and shooing him out of a Tea Party movement, if you will, when he agrees with such a basic fundamental principle that we must see implemented, and thats just simply balancing the doggone federal budget!
Is this the same Palin who just a few weeks ago boldly (and rightly) wrote: Everyone I talk to still believes in contested primaries.
Are you trying to imply that being apolitical that you can practice an age old sin of deception? Not very Christian like.
Thanks for the wisdom Quix!
Satan is influencing the powers that be to move in the direction of total world control in an effort to totally eliminate Israel and stop Gods plan to destroy him. God, on the other hand, has told us through the prophets what is going to ultimately happen and His plans will not be thwarted.
I seems to me that its non productive to determine who, on which continent or which sphere of earthly life is to blame or given credit as the case may be. Rather, its better to understand what the prophets said would happen and what our options are.
I believe that the prophetic timetable is set and nothing we do is going to change that. Our mandate is to warn others and spread the truth of the Gospel of Jesus Christ. God draws those who He determines but uses us to introduce. Once the full number of the Gentiles is come in things will get very exciting! Come quickly Lord Jesus!
Did your parents teach you to badger people.shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiachNot a very Christian walk displayed.
Seek YHvH for healing.
Not really, Look at my posts and threads from 2000 or so. I have changed. We are in the last days. Sarah to me is a mystery. I am interested in what is going on. I do not know but, Thank God, God knows.
Well said!
You made a charge against someone and failed to back it up with any facts whatsoever.It’s now clear you’re nothing but a wolf in sheeps clothing.You claim to be a Christian yet you practice deception.I get the impression from you that you are like what Our Lord called the Pharisses.Whitewashed tombs full of dead mens bones.I’m done with your lies.I feel the need for a shower after commenting back and forth with a deciever such as you.
INDEED.
If she is what she appears to be and
IS . . . HELD OUT AS . . .
PRAISE GOD AND PASS THE AMMO. MAY HE make of her whatever Queen Esther type figure for such a time as this—however He sees fit.
IF she is what seems at least quite conceivable . . . given all the . . . curious flags on the play . . . May God have mercy.
Like Fudruckers?
No.
It’s like very troublesome
Fudgespreaders.
I’ve spent many hours in Uriael’s home.
He’s enormously far from stupid.
His ‘stupidity’ is probably at the same level of many of his detractors’ brilliance.
Which would mean his brilliance is quite out of sight.
He’s also researched many things in such ballparks . . . rather extensively.
Thankfully, he also does not swallow the MSM’s
good-cop/bad-cop charade.
UriÂel-2012
I don’t know that you could have chosen a more troublesome name to try and type in. Sigh.
I finally had to resort to copy and paste.
Nevertheless, I still greatly LUB BRO.
And thanks to and Praise God for the mod’s OK-ing it.
Thanks for your kind words.
Much wisdom and truth in your assertions.
I do believe that fasting and prayer . . . particularly across Christian ‘club’ boundary lines
can be very powerful
toward SOME delays SOMEWHAT
in some spheres and locales for a limited time.
And, such prayers and fasting may well lessen the severity of many things in some locales for a time, if not period.
I’m glad you have accepted His Grace,but I would advise against using deception in your new walk.
I agree we are in the last days and we should all hold fast to the TRUTH.
Sarah should not really be a mystery to you.She is smart in not playing the media and inside the beltway games.She has shared her faith in God many times,and until I see otherwise I will continue to support her political effort.
Now if she turns out to be the Antichrist I will be the first to step up and say I was wrong.
I agree. I am just a poor miserable sinner a beggar for grace.
I’m glad you admire him.You should tell him that if making a charge against someone he should offer facts or at the least explain to us mere mortals what he means when making such charges.He failed on both accounts and that in turn leads me to believe he is nothing more than a cheap deciever and apparently has you under his deceptive spell.It’s really sad but the truth is, deception seems to be the order of the day to some folks in these end times.Have a nice day slurping the B/S from your brilliant master.
Part of me thinks it may be
Shrillery vs Palin.
Talk about a cat fight!
That would also be entertaining.
Hi Friends,
Marbren I know what you mean..I as well hate to get in these political debates, although I do like Sarah Palin and Rick Perry I do not believe any of them can fix what ails the world and the USA now...IMO it’s over....Not the world but this *System of things* The Bible tells us how this story ends and it is not with the U.S Political System it surrounds *Israel* it started with Israel and it will end with *Israel*
At this time in our world, we should not look to any human being to change the evil in this world and in the USA..We need to look up, pray that we may stand worthy when the SOn of Man comes...
GOD told us who is taking over:
Revelation 11:15
The seventh angel sounded his trumpet, and there were loud voices in heaven, which said:
“The kingdom of the world has become the kingdom of our Lord and of his Christ, and he will reign for ever and ever.”
Your statements agaisnt UriÂel-2012 are un-founded and mean spirited IMO..He is nothing like what you accuse him of....
Some people do not worship false idols....
I did not mean to offend you...
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