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To: Carry_Okie

Judaism, Orthodox Judaism, has a broad panoply of issues in which they are at loggerheads with other branches of Judaism that are divisive, exclusionary and worse, whatever the Torah otherwise offers, provides.


85 posted on 08/18/2011 3:08:56 AM PDT by lbryce (BHO:Satan's Evil Twin)
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To: lbryce
Judaism, Orthodox Judaism, has a broad panoply of issues in which they are at loggerheads with other branches of Judaism that are divisive, exclusionary and worse, whatever the Torah otherwise offers, provides.

If you look up the word, "sanctify" you will find out that is exactly what it means to be "not of this world," sic:

Luke 6:22 Blessed are ye, when men shall hate you, and when they shall separate you from their company, and shall reproach you, and cast out your name as evil, for the Son of man's sake.

John 7:7 The world cannot hate you; but me it hateth, because I testify of it, that the works thereof are evil.

John 15:18 If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you.

1 John 3:13 Marvel not, my brethren, if the world hate you.

Nobody said that keeping Torah was easy. The standards within which the people were to discipline themselves are indeed very rigid and unpleasant. Yet if one asks how, operationally, the Jewish people were going to keep a system like Torah without ALL of them doing it, I cannot see it. Yet the national defense hung on these principles. I know it is hard to see "national security" in matters like blasphemy, but believe me, that is exactly what it comes to when one takes the Law seriously enough to study its consequent outcomes. Conversely, it is equally obvious upon study that failing to keep it produces the outcomes it threatens. Yet unless the people DID it, they would never see how it works. That is the lesson in the link I gave you. Unless the society maintained itself as pure and separate, it would not survive intact (which it did not).

In my study of Sabbath Year, I found the Orthodox the most accepting. They were actually delighted that anybody cared enough about the Law to give it so much careful analysis. Yet I can also say that they (erroneously) treat Talmudic law as not to be questioned, where I can now show compromises and outright deliberate misconstructions (albeit for very solid reasons).

95 posted on 08/18/2011 6:44:32 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (GunWalker: Arming "a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as well funded")
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