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To: NELSON111

and that the Perry would not announce “yes” until he was sure Palin was a “no.”
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1) WHY did Palin specifically remind the press, a few days ago, that Perry had said he wouldn’t run?
2) Palin knows, a LOT of people support her, and are spending a LOT of time organizing in every state for her.
do you really BELIEVE, that if she had already decided “NO”,
that she would let them keep wasting their time ?!?

3) we shouldn’t criticise Perry, because it will hurt him?
...we shouldn’t breathe a word of any legitimate concerns about Perry, because if we are VERY quiet, the MSM will ignore it also ?!?

we SHOULD vett our candidates!

if they can’t take it here, they certainly can’t take it in the general campaign.
and the MSM will exaggerate and outright LIE about Gardasil, etc.
...again, if Perry can’t take it here, then he won’t beat BHO at all, let alone by “15 points”.


125 posted on 08/17/2011 7:03:31 PM PDT by Elendur (It is incumbent on every generation to pay its own debts as it goes. - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Elendur
we shouldn’t criticise Perry, because it will hurt him?

Not really saying that...and didn't say that. I am saying stick to Reagan's rule. There is a reason he said it. He KNEW the enemy would use it against us. There is a way of vetting...campaigning...and debating without (and this is what I said) "beating up the candidates... to the point that they come out of the primary SO DAMAGED they can't beat the incumbant."

This is what is happening and this is what I was trying to convey to the poster...but he doesn't understand the use of hyperbole so I should not be surprised it was lost on him.

So...let me clarify. I believe the difference in honest debate and what I see going on here is this: In honest debate, I can have my beliefs...and when the candidate i DID NOT chose wins...I can support them with my fullest measure of enthusiasm. I can get those yard signs...bumper stickers...I can "pimp" them out to my moderate relatives and neighbors after 6 months of telling them why I want them to vote for candidate z in the pramary "instead of THAT guy."

BUT...what I see going on here...like on this thread is the stuff that FOOLS are made of. HYPERBOLE ALERT (for the dense ones in the audience)! When you denegrate, call names, call them RINO, say they are this or that, "THEY'RE NO BETTER THAN OBAMA (and that's been said). When you destroy them for 6 months...and they get the nomination...it is aweful difficult to turn that ship around. It's hard to get up the motivation to campaign to defeat this individual we have in the White House now.

It's REAL HARD to go to that moderate relative or neighbor and say "VOTE FOR THAT GUY" when you've done nothing but run them in the ground for 6 months. You look like a fool.

See the difference between "vetting" and detroying? One helps the enemy...one doesn't.

132 posted on 08/17/2011 7:28:42 PM PDT by NELSON111
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