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To: CharlesWayneCT; Norm Lenhart
Now it seems the same people are saying that Al Gore's position on Global Warming in the 1980s is critically important in judging Rick Perry, regardless of anything he has said at any time since 1988, even though 1988 is 20 years earlier than 2008.

Charles you are focusing in too close.

This isn't about Global Warming but Rick's lying about himself that Gore wasn't that bad of liberal back then because he wasn't into Global Warming at the time.

It is a false statement because Rick tries to make the false case that Al wasn't into Global Warming at the time, which really wasn't an issue at the time, Somehow makes Gore less liberal.

It is a classic Straw-Man argument and Perry knew Gore was a liberal, a very Left-Wing liberal.

A 9% ACU rating does not lie.

Quit helping Perry lie on this issue Charles.
198 posted on 08/15/2011 11:17:32 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: SoConPubbie
This isn't about Global Warming but Rick's lying about himself that Gore wasn't that bad of liberal back then because he wasn't into Global Warming at the time.

That isn't what the sound bite said, but rather than repeat myself to you, just read what I posted to other freepers. You are twisting the clear meaning of his speech soundbite to imply he was making a claim he was not making.

You want to make it about "Rick's lying" because you see that as a better argument than the one that has been made here for weeks about him being a democrat in the 1980s. That had the advantage of being a truthful and serious argument, but it hasn't kept people from supporting Perry, so now you want to claim he's a liar, but the evidence doesn't support your claim.

My point about judging Perry for Al Gore's global warming stance was in fact meant to illustrate what you have said -- that it isn't really about Al Gore's views on global warming in the 80s, despite those who keep bringing up those views to suggest Rick Perry lied. That tactic has his supporters arguing over how conservative or liberal Al Gore is -- it's a clever tactic, but a frivolous argument.

Rick Perry has said Gore was into global warming at the time, and that he didn't support Gore's view on that when he was his campaign chair. Since he is on record saying that, it is absurd for you to say that Perry is trying to make a "false case that Al wasn't into Global Warming".

Because if I'm trying to claim Al Gore wasn't into global warming, I wouldn't be saying Al Gore was into global warming and I disagreed with him. See, that pretty much is the OPPOSITE of claiming he wasn't into global warming.

206 posted on 08/15/2011 11:34:29 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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