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To: skeptoid
This article is so chockful of distortions, I'm starting to think that this paper is the NY Times of Alaska, only more rabid.

First off, 45 man-hours of maintenance per hour of flight time is pretty good. F-18's require 18-20 man-hours, and they're not useful for getting into heavily-defended airspace. Second, a fleet of 158 aircraft is definitely going to require thousands of maintenance people. This paper is definitely fishwrap at best.

9 posted on 08/14/2011 12:09:52 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Zhang Fei
. . . I'm starting to think that this paper is the NY Times of Alaska, only more rabid. . . . .

It is a little left-leaning alright, but in this instance, the story originated at the Los Angeles Times (according to the byline at the source.

11 posted on 08/14/2011 12:14:52 PM PDT by skeptoid (The road to serfdom is being paved by RINO's, and Lisa Murkowski is their mascot.)
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To: Zhang Fei
. . . . fleet of 158 aircraft is definitely going to require thousands of maintenance people. . . . ..

I was thinking the 3,000-man maintainence group referred to the number of personel required at a Raptor base regardless of the number of assigned a/c.

Also, while looking for more info, I came across this:

Are those in fact HUGE ten bladed ceiling fans in the overhead?

14 posted on 08/14/2011 12:26:27 PM PDT by skeptoid (The road to serfdom is being paved by RINO's, and Lisa Murkowski is their mascot.)
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To: Zhang Fei

I don’t know about current man-hour rates, perhaps a little perspective is in order. In a former life I flew SH-2F’s, we had older H-2’s, in fact one had a BUNO beginning in 139. Our average was in the 40-50 man hour range, they were old and tired and required significant maintenance. H-53’s during that time had similar numbers even though they were considerably bigger. As an aside, there was a saying in Marine H-46 squadrons that when you add 4 H-53’s for a cruise you double your maintenance. The idea with new aircraft is to get lower cost of ownership with a lower man hour rate. If this is true of the F-22, that is not good.


41 posted on 08/14/2011 1:42:12 PM PDT by phormer phrog phlyer
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