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Posted on 08/14/2011 9:25:36 AM PDT by teg_76
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The democrats have corrupted the term “Comprehensive immigration reform” to mean AMNESTY. We ought not let them continue to get away with that by hysterical knee- jerk attacks on any candidate who agrees that the solution to immigration issues MUST be “comprehensive”
There does need to be comprehensive immigration reform- the border must be secured BY THE FEDS and the people who are here must be dealt with
if not the democrats’ amnesty, then registration of guest workers and limits on their entitlements to US social programs, changing the citizenship by birth clause etc ....... or some other solution
Too many knuckle draggers and emo’s are down on Perry and anyone else who admits, rationally, the solution to any complex problem must by definition be comprehensive
“conservative” refusal to recognize this and help shape it = epic fail
Only “Quality” people need apply for immigration,Kennedy filled the place with third world Dregs who are unable to contribute,only destroy and lower the standards!
Thank you for posting the link. I shall look it over.
A nice display of Harvey balls, not much else.
I will miss having T-Paw to kick around though...
Oh, but Saint Sarah pretty got much the same grade. People don’t agree with Gov. Perry on one issue and they are determined to smear and beat him into the ground. Sick.
Most important issue for me. Determines whether the country survives or not. No more amnesty types for this buckaroo, tell you whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat.
What would be the perfect racial/nationality make up of the United States, in your mind?
These rankings are not based on what the politicians have done, but what the writer thinks they might do or whether the writer thinks they are vocal enough.
Bachmann gets a B-, and Cain gets a C- based on what they may or may not do. They're record on immigration is mostly theoretical. (Bachmann "supporting legislation".)
Gary Johnson gets an F, and Rick Perry gets a D-. They both governed states that share a common border with Mexico. They are being judged based on the reality of having to deal with the lack of support from the Federal government and inaction by Congress, who ultimately bear responsibility for securing the nation's borders.
Giving candidates a good grade, even though they've never had to actually deal with the problem first hand, doesn't seem particularly informative. Maybe that's just me.
Why don’t they go back to the 1950 criteria for European immigration?
1. Check background for anti-American activities.
2. Does applicant speak English?
3. Does he have skills useful to host country? (The higher the skill level the closer to the front of the line.)
4. Require applicant to have a sponsor who will accept financial responsibility for applicant for first 3 years.
5. Require thorough medical test of entire family.
6. Require interview (in English) at American Consulate to determine applicant’s intention for immigration and determine if applicant will assimilate.
7. Upon arrival in US, issue green card with instruction that card must be kept up-to-date (address change, etc.)at all times.
8. Inform applicant that he will not be able to receive welfare perks until he becomes a US citizen (5 years after application and 3 years when serving in US Forces)
Using the above criteria we will have a set of guidelines.
So, Obama was widely known for "yes we can" back in 2001?
Not sure where I dissed the immigration reform, but for me personally the big issue is not having secure borders. Yes, it is the job of the Feds, but I sure don’t want someone who has ever advocated open borders. I didn’t like George Bush’s policy on immigration.
First thing that I want to see done is secure the border then deal with the problem. That’s where Reagan screwed up. Amnesty was passed on the promise of the Dems doing something later. Golly gee, they lied. Never again.
Second is no anchor babies. Only kids born to US citizens or legal immigrants get the automatic right of citizenship. I realize that will probably require a change in the Constitution. And probably won’t happen. But that’s what I want.
As for what to do with the illegals already here, yeah, I’d like to ship them back to wherever they came from. I agree you’re probably right it will never happen, but again, that’s what I would like to see. Failing that, I would like to see something such as must have resided here 10 years, have no criminal record, have a job and not be on welfare, take the citizenship test (which better be in ENGLISH!) and probably some community service. That’s just off the top of my head; not sure what the final version would look like. But definitely not a blanket amnesty. If you don’t or can’t meet the qualifications, buh-bye.
And no special treatment/status for things like college entrance.
Exactly. And the only statement Palin’s made that she gets a red mark for is some sort of idea that as long as any American could lose a job, we shouldn’t allow any in-migration.
I’m for allowing in highly skilled and educated immigrants pretty much at any time, though I’d exempt them from government benefits for about a decade, perhaps even requiring ‘sponsors’ to assure that they didn’t become a burden.
What is killing the country is the possibility of absorbing upwards of 30 million highly unskilled immigrants (with Democrat inclinations on voting).
If there are 30 million illegals in America, its enough to fully populate more than 50 congressional districts.
Nothing like having several states worth of democrat voters all ready to create the permanent democrat majority.
Reminds me of the old Cheech and Chong skit about Basketball Jones.
“Hey Coach... lets talk about your record”.
“What the hell you want to bring that up for? How did I know she was 13... she looked 15 to me”?
LLS
Currently, 1.6 million legal and illegal immigrants settle in the country each year; 350,000 immigrants leave each year, resulting in a net immigration of 1.25 million. Since 1970, the U.S. population has increased from 203 million to 310 million, i.e., over 100 million. In the next 40 years, the population will increase by 130 million to 440 million. Three-quarters of the increase in our population since 1970 and the projected increase will be the result of immigration. The U.S., the world’s third most populous nation, has the highest annual rate of population growth of any developed country in the world, i.e., 0.977 percent (2010 estimate), principally due to immigration.
What would be the perfect racial/nationality make up of the United States, in your mind?
My problem with legal immigration has nothing to do with racial composition. It has to do with numbers and the importation of poverty. We don't need 1.2 million legal immigrants a year, most of whom are poor and uneducated. 57% of immigrant headed households are on welfare. Milton Friedman said, “You cannot simultaneously have free immigration and a welfare state.” We have both.
We need to formulate a merit based immigration system that brings in the skills and talents to keep us competitive in the global economy. And reduce immigration levels based on need more closely approximating 300,000 a year, which it was during the period 1925-1965.
Historical Legal immigration
FYI: 87 percent of the 1.2 million legal immigrants entering annually are minorities as defined by the U.S. Government and almost all of the illegal aliens are minorities. By 2019 half of the children 18 and under in the U.S. will be classified as minorities and by 2039, half of the residents of this country will be minorities. Generally, immigrants and minorities vote predominantly for the Democrat Party. Hence, Democrats view immigration as a never-ending source of voters that will make them the permanent majority party.
Since the 1965 Immigration Act, our pro-population growth immigration policies have fueled major demographic changes in a very short period of time. In 1970, non-Hispanic whites comprised 89 percent of the population; today they are 66 percent; and by 2042, they will be 50 percent. By 2050 one in three residents of this country will be Hispanic. The Democrats, under the banner of multiculturalism and diversity, have forged a political coalition that depends on individuals coalescing around racial and ethnic identities rather than the issues. The continuing and increasing flow of minority immigrants, mostly poor and uneducated, provide a natural constituency for the Democrats, which see them as their principal source of political power.
There is no doubt that our legal immigration policies have changed the demographics of this country since 1965. It is not a matter of what I choose or want, it has already happened. The real question is where do we go from here.
40% of the 12 to 20 million illegal aliens in this country came here legally and overstayed their visa. Securing the border only solves part of the problem.
I doubt any candidate will take a firm stand on immigration issues during this election. If we can elect a candidate who will oppose amnesty and support tougher border enforcement, then our best hope is to depend on Congress to reject all bills providing for amnesty or the Dream Act or any further loosening of immigration laws.
The thing to avoid is another W, who would try to force amnesty on a party and nation that does not want it. Then maybe Congress can pass some good legislation that a Republican president would sign.
well, you have proposed a realistic plan for comprehensive immigration reform - congratulations! Some good proposals, too
Too bad that would earn you a “D” from one-issue voters scoring our GOP candidates
Securing the borders must be done by the FEDERAL govt, so we must get rid of obama to have any hope of implementing this
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