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Now, to put my partisan hat back on — if the White House is right and this is what happened, why the hell is David Axelrod out blaming the Tea Party Movement, a movement that at best has the support of a few dozen members of the United States House of Representatives and has only seen those members in office for six months?

That’s as irresponsible as S&P, and it also does not compute if S&P is the one that screwed up.

* By the way, to lend further credence to the idea that maybe the White House economic team is right and S&P screwed up, where did investor cash flee to during the market collapse of Friday and now, it seems, again today? Why U.S. Treasuries of course. ======================================================================================
Does put things (somewhat) in perspective (in reference to my previous post.)
FR:August 9, 2011-
Richard Koo: The Ratings Agencies May Destroy The Global Economy Once Again
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2761409/posts

1 posted on 08/09/2011 9:29:44 PM PDT by lbryce
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2 posted on 08/09/2011 9:32:52 PM PDT by ThomasThomas ( Congressmen should wear uniforms like NASCAR drivers, so we can identify their corporate sponsors.)
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They’ve been warning for months that it was coming if the US government didn’t do something about the deficit spending.

Mistake or not, we’ve been at the edge for some time now.


3 posted on 08/09/2011 9:32:56 PM PDT by DB
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Given we create our own money to prop up the stock market, what is the basis for claiming the US wont be able to pay it’s debts, some of which is to the Federal Reserve? I am sure S+P doesnt have a clue.


4 posted on 08/09/2011 9:34:07 PM PDT by sickoflibs (If you pay zero Federal income taxes, don't say you are paying your 'fair share')
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In All Seriousness, What If Barack Obama Is Right? (Redstate.com)

In all seriousness, we know he is wrong.

5 posted on 08/09/2011 9:35:02 PM PDT by doc1019 (You do not need a parachute to skydive. You only need a parachute to skydive twice.)
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I don’t believe anything that comes out of the mouth of zero. After all, everytime he moves his lips, he lies.

I’m just sayin.....


6 posted on 08/09/2011 9:36:27 PM PDT by Kevin in California
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They said that it would require cuts of $4 trillion to maintain the credit rating. The $2 trillion “mistake” is the government’s: counting a promise to reduce the rate of increase sometime during someone elses term as real cuts.


7 posted on 08/09/2011 9:38:22 PM PDT by Ingtar (Together we go broke (from a Pookie18 post))
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A two trillion dollar accounting error? Yeah, ok..
*rolls eyes*


8 posted on 08/09/2011 9:39:43 PM PDT by cardinal4 (Sauron/Saruman 2012; it couldn't be any worse..)
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It’s the spending, stupid!


9 posted on 08/09/2011 9:42:13 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)
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The reason I think this story is nonsense:

S&P is now downgrading muni’s.

I doubt they would do that without a better reason than there is a split of opinion in DC.


10 posted on 08/09/2011 9:46:30 PM PDT by old curmudgeon
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S&P Motives?

The owner of S&P is McGraw Hill.

Note this:

Pre-Marketing: S&P for sale?

http://www.businessbrokerjournal.com/blog/pre-marketing-sp-for-sale

“Big breakup? Activists put pressure on S&P owner McGraw Hill “


11 posted on 08/09/2011 9:47:31 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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Let's take the story as a given that S&P screwed up, and they're two trillion off. At a present spending rate, they're just 15 months off. So they're just slightly ahead of the curve and will look like geniuses when the other services make the same computations, just before the fall elections.

Why is Axelrod blaming the tea party? Because that was the plan when this October surprise landed and the S&P downgraded US debt. Because if you shift us over just a bit, like 15 months, we're right before the November elections. And the last defense of this White House as ALWAYS been to blame someone else for their mess. It's Bush's fault, it's the Tea Party's fault, it's martians who did it...

I sure hope that Obama is making sure his people know the birthdays of every senior analyst at S&P and buying them really really nice birthday presents (like a DVD collection from Europe?) for this very generous gift. Because the downgrade’s not happening right before the November elections, it's happening well over a year before, and gosh, no where near when people are heading to the ballot boxes.

What a present the S&P gave Obama by spilling the beans a little early.

13 posted on 08/09/2011 9:48:51 PM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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In All Seriousness, what if Erik Erikson bought a spin?


14 posted on 08/09/2011 9:49:02 PM PDT by Carismar
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Pardon my naivete but wouldn’t divulging a not yet public rating change, and more importantly, trading on that knowledge be a violation of securities laws?


15 posted on 08/09/2011 9:49:05 PM PDT by JrsyJack (a healthy dose of buckshot will probably get you the last word in any argument.)
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The two trillion dollar 'error' was the White House's Infra-Rose colored glasses view of how much money his Keynsen Economic Plan is going to provide the American coffers.

In other words, there is no 'two trillion dollars'. It's a projection, based off of rainbow-and-sunshine flavored unicorn flatulence from the White House. That money doesn't exist, and it's money that we have no reason to believe will exist. It's a lie. They can pout and whine and demand we believe them, but they can't produce any numbers to prove it.

It's fantasy math. It's like arguing with your bank that you're really a billionaire, but they lose your last deposit of 1 billion dollars and they're the ones being unfair for not changing their accounting practices. You can wave your crayon scribbled napkin and call it a deposit slip, but no one will believe you.

16 posted on 08/09/2011 9:49:16 PM PDT by Steel Wolf ("Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master." - Gaius Sallustius Crispus)
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Ask yourself...do we deserve to be downgraded, given our current condition & no plan to fix it? Common sense is so uncommon these days that folks never stop to see what’s obviously right before their very eyes.

Sigh....it’s all part of the strong delusion.


17 posted on 08/09/2011 9:49:25 PM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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Well Obama is right about S&P, but in the wrong way.

The downgrade of US debt should have come much earlier, and been much more severe.

And further still, prescient rating services would have downgraded the US immediately after the Marxist was elected in November of 2008


19 posted on 08/09/2011 9:52:36 PM PDT by EyeGuy (2012: When the Levee Breaks)
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Marvel Comics used to do this every month. My favorite was, “What if Uncle Ben didn’t die?”


20 posted on 08/09/2011 9:53:35 PM PDT by redpoll
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In All Seriousness, What If Barack Obama Is Right?

First time for everything umm my ears still ring. Chug-a-lug Chug-a-lug. Make u wanna holla hidy hoe, Burns your tummy don't you know. Chug-a-lug chug-a-lug

21 posted on 08/09/2011 9:56:05 PM PDT by steelyourfaith (If it's "green" ... it's crap !!!)
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Actually S & P got it wrong.. America should be downgraded much lower..
Heck we have a Marxist President.. trying to dismantle our whole system..


22 posted on 08/09/2011 9:57:47 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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Misplaced a decimal point?

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23 posted on 08/09/2011 9:59:25 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Just once I'd like someone to call me 'Sir' without adding 'You're making a scene.' - Homer Simpson)
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