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To: muawiyah
Epigenetics is not new - and it can ONLY change how the hereditary material that is already there is expressed (on or off).

Epigenetics is also not “outside of the double helix” it involves methylation of the double helix molecule.

Biologically there is only one definition of species - it is how it is interpreted that comes into issues with “lumpers” and “splitters”.

You seem the ultimate “lumper” - lumping species that not even the most extreme professional lumpers (taxonomists) want to lump together.

34 posted on 08/09/2011 2:16:46 PM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: allmendream
Take a good look at where the methylation is located ~ I simply say "outside" ~ but if you want to say "hooked in" or "substituted" or whatever for any particular chunk of methylation do so. I don't care one way or the other. The genes are still there no matter what.

Lumping foxes, wolves, dogs, jackels and a variety of other animals into the same family is not a problem.

The problem arises out of the idea that DOGS and WOLVES and COYOTES which can and do breed freely, prolifically if we let them, and in the most fertile manner are DIFFERENT SPECIES ~ not in your wildest imagination ~ it would be like pronouncing Black Humans to be a different species than White Humans.

I'm sorry. Does not compute. Doesn't work. Even isolation to separate ranges (Northern high latitudes and Equator) is insufficient to justify identifying mere racial differences as constituting the basis of declaring a group to be a species.

As Shakira sang, "the hips don't lie".

36 posted on 08/09/2011 2:36:38 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: allmendream
Epigenetics is also not “outside of the double helix” it involves methylation of the double helix molecule.

Histone Acetylation, DNA Methylation and Epigenetics

There may be another method used to affect gene expression that I'm forgetting.

43 posted on 08/09/2011 7:02:55 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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