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Rocky Mountain Low
Grand Junction Sentinel ^ | Aug. 8, 2011 | Dennis Webb

Posted on 08/08/2011 12:43:39 PM PDT by GSWarrior

The late musician John Denver’s love of wilderness is driving an effort to name a peak on a prominent western Colorado mountain after him.

But as it turns out, the peak’s location in a wilderness area poses a Rocky-Mountain-high obstacle to the undertaking’s success.

Littleton resident J.P. McDaniel’s effort to get the eastern of the twin summits of Mount Sopris south of Carbondale named for Denver, who moved to the Aspen area as a young man, has drawn widespread media and online attention in recent weeks. The buzz has boosted McDaniel’s petition drive signatures by a couple thousand.

It also has elicited opposition from some who’d rather that McDaniel leave alone the landmark named for Richard Sopris, who before serving in the Civil War and being elected mayor of Denver led a prospecting expedition that passed by the mountain.

McDaniel’s proposal “is just ridiculous because everybody calls that Mount Sopris. Both summits are known as Mount Sopris,” said Carbondale resident Lou Dawson, a mountaineering guidebook author and the first person to have skied all of Colorado’s 14,000-foot peaks.

PEAK VERSUS MOUNTAIN?
McDaniel said it’s important to distinguish between her attempt to name an unnamed peak on the mountain, and renaming the mountain itself.

“It gets a little confusing, and I think that’s why some people have become real possessive of the mountain, and they’re not understanding that … Mount Sopris would be named Mount Sopris no matter what,” she said.

Indeed, “It is possible to name an unnamed peak on a mountain without affecting the name of the mountain in any way; numerous peaks on a mountain of one name can have each peak named with a different name without affecting the official name of the larger mountain,” according to correspondence Dawson received from the U.S. Board on Geographic Names and posted on his http://www.wildsnow.com website.

But Lou Yost, executive secretary for the board, said a big challenge for McDaniel’s proposal — which he has yet to receive — could be the wilderness area question. Mount Sopris is in the Maroon Bells-Snowmass Wilderness Area.

Based on its interpretation of the Wilderness Act of 1964, “The board just feels that applying any more new names to features in wilderness areas detracts from the wilderness experience that future generations will have and it … won’t do it unless the proponent makes an overriding case,” Yost said.

He said exceptions normally would be made for reasons such as safety, or perhaps educational purposes.

Yost said the board receives about 300 to 350 applications for proposed geographic names or name changes each year. Perhaps 80 to 85 percent are approved in general, but that percentage falls to probably 4 percent or less when the proposals involve wilderness areas, he said.

ENVIRONMENTAL TROUBADOUR
McDaniel wants the east peak named for Denver because he wrote his hit “Rocky Mountain High,” which in 2007 became Colorado’s second official state song, at Williams Lake, east of that peak. It also overlooks the Windstar Land Conservancy, nearly 1,000 acres that Denver donated to the public.

McDaniel got to know Denver while working with the Windstar Foundation environmental education nonprofit, which he co-founded. He died in 1997 while piloting an experimental aircraft that crashed.

Although McDaniel knows Denver’s music well, she said her petition drive is motivated by his environmentalism, which included working on behalf of conservation groups and causes such as replanting trees and protecting the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge.

“He won many different awards for his conservation work, his environmental work. I think some people don’t realize this, how active he was with environmental causes,” she said.

At least one-third of his songs also are nature-oriented, McDaniel said.

McDaniel said she is aware of the challenge of getting something named in a wilderness area, but she thinks Denver qualifies for an exception to the board’s rule.

“I think because it would be John Denver and all of the work that he has put forth, all of the effort that he has put forth with wilderness preservation, I think that it would be appropriate to name a peak in his honor,” she said.

Speaking Thursday, she said she had collected probably 2,800 signatures for her petition, and she hoped to submit them to the board by week’s end.

“I haven’t really had time to promote it. I’m just really surprised that it has taken off to the caliber that it has,” she said.

STIRRING SOPRIS SUPPORTERS

Opposition has taken off as well, including through an obligatory Facebook page (“Don’t Name Mt. Sopris After John Denver,” 157 members).

“What? Change the name of Mt. Sopris to John Denver Mountain? No way!” declared the homepage of the website of the Carbondale-based Mount Sopris Historical Society, which urged people to voice their opposition. (However, the website since has been changed to simply suggest submitting comments of any kind and make clear the society board has yet to take a position on the issue.)

That website’s original objection to renaming the mountain would appear to demonstrate the confusion McDaniel says continues to exist on the issue. But Dawson says confusion is one of the problems with trying to name a peak of a mountain that already has a different name.

Mount Sopris, in Pitkin County, towers majestically over the lower Roaring Fork Valley with east and west summits that are of the same height, 12,953 feet. Dawson said most people who climb the mountain go up the east peak and say they have climbed Sopris.

“And the east summit has a benchmark on it that says Sopris,” he said.

As an alternative, he has proposed on his website that McDaniel seek to have a “beautiful,” unnamed 12,176-foot peak just above Williams Lake named for Denver.

McDaniel is hopeful when it comes to her effort, but she is leaving the door open to other possibilities.

“Mount Sopris, I think it would be the ideal mountain, but certainly there’s other mountains that could be named after John in that area,” she said.

Yost said the board has gotten perhaps 20 to 25 comments regarding McDaniel’s proposal, despite having not yet received the proposal itself. Most of those comments are in opposition to the change, he said.

He said the board would seek input at the county level, from the U.S. Forest Service and from the Colorado Geographical Names Board before making any decision.

He said in the best-case scenario, consideration of a name change could take eight months. But he expects the process would take longer for McDaniel’s proposal because wilderness is involved.

He added, “I have the feeling that from the response we’ve had so far there’ll be a lot of differing opinions on it.”


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: environment; geography; rockies

1 posted on 08/08/2011 12:43:42 PM PDT by GSWarrior
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To: GSWarrior

Billed as the "most photographed mountain in America."

2 posted on 08/08/2011 12:45:39 PM PDT by GSWarrior (Orwell's 1984 was not intended to be a "how-to" manual for progressives.)
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To: GSWarrior

3 posted on 08/08/2011 12:47:58 PM PDT by End Times Sentinel (In Memory of my dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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To: GSWarrior

Henry Deutschendorf’s
Peak.


4 posted on 08/08/2011 12:55:44 PM PDT by dancusa (Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy. W. Churchill)
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To: GSWarrior

The economy is resembling John Denver’s plane.


5 posted on 08/08/2011 12:58:57 PM PDT by dfwgator
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Mash His Cute Little Nose

We're Looking For a Little Yellow

Donate, monthly if possible

6 posted on 08/08/2011 1:11:05 PM PDT by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list.)
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To: GSWarrior

Can’t they find an old crater to name?


7 posted on 08/08/2011 1:37:40 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: GSWarrior

Why don’t they leave Mt. Sopris alone, and rename Monterey Bay after JD?


Oh God I’m An Ocean Buoy
-not by John Denver

(Sing to the tune of “Thank God I’m a Country Boy”)

Took a flight from the farm
and I never came back
Built a plane from a kit
But I didn’t have the knack
Jumped in the cockpit
and downed a six-pack
And now I’m an ocean buoy

Well, I grabbed the controls
And I started to fiddle
Got flames coming up
On my face like a griddle
Air flight ain’t nothing
But a funny, funny riddle
So now I’m an ocean buoy.

Well, my head’s chopped in pieces
And my body’s full of dents
They’ll identify me
By my guitar’s fingerprints
I tried to “dry out”
But instead got a rinse
And now I’m an ocean buoy

Well, it’s really farrr out
When you’re down ‘neath the water
I just ain’t been right
Since I started on the bottle
I reach for Jim Beam
But instead grab the throttle
And now I’m an ocean buoy

Well, I grabbed the controls
And I started to fiddle
Got flames coming up
On my face like a griddle
George Burns appeared beside me
and we prayed just a little
Oh God! I’m an ocean buoy!

The day’s just about over
And I’m sinking kinda low
In the undersea world
of Jacques Cousteau
Calypso can you find me
By the bubbles that I blow
‘Cause now I’m an ocean buoy


8 posted on 08/08/2011 1:38:23 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: GSWarrior
John should've never flown down to Carmel to buzz Clint Eastwood's house.

Dumb idea.

9 posted on 08/08/2011 1:47:48 PM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: Nervous Tick

Funny!


10 posted on 08/08/2011 2:09:53 PM PDT by GSWarrior (Orwell's 1984 was not intended to be a "how-to" manual for progressives.)
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To: Darksheare

Being as your such a huge John Denver fan, I thought you’d really enjoy post #8. :P


11 posted on 08/08/2011 2:14:56 PM PDT by derllak
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To: derllak

LOL, that does sorta work.
Now if Ole JD had put the hooch in the tank instead of his gut...


12 posted on 08/08/2011 2:22:01 PM PDT by Darksheare (You will never defeat Bok Choy!)
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To: Charles Martel

J Denver buzzed Chuck Norris and blew his hat off.
Never mess with the hat.


13 posted on 08/08/2011 2:23:15 PM PDT by Darksheare (You will never defeat Bok Choy!)
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To: Darksheare

Lol!

Shhhh! Let’s don’t tell Mike “HE WAS NOT DRUNK!” Jeffries.

I’d feel bad if he has a stroke.


14 posted on 08/08/2011 3:03:29 PM PDT by derllak
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To: GSWarrior

Compromise: name the largest city in the region after him.


15 posted on 08/08/2011 3:22:49 PM PDT by dangus
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To: GSWarrior
The first time I ever heard of John Denver was about 1972 on a TV special called BIGHORN! I thought it was going to be about the Rockies and bighorn sheep so I watched it.

The scenery was beautiful till this long haired hippie creep came on and tried to sing. It was so bad I had to turn off the sound just to enjoy the mountain scenery.

Then years later came Denver's attempt to stop some construction by claiming the fuel trucks would ruin the area, and later it was found that while criticizing others fuel usage HE was found to be hoarding thousands of gallons of fuel.

16 posted on 08/08/2011 3:38:14 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Click my name. See my home page, if you dare! NEW PHOTOS & PAINTINGS)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

Yeah...and then he died crashing a fuel laden plane into the pristine Pacific Ocean!!!


17 posted on 08/08/2011 3:42:53 PM PDT by Osage Orange (HE HATE ME)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
I remember the gas hoarding controversy.

John Denver may be many things, but hippy is not one of them. He is too clean to be a hippy.

A lot of people find much comfort in his music. I always thought he was a goofy folksinger with a thin voice and mostly lightweight songs.

18 posted on 08/08/2011 3:52:23 PM PDT by GSWarrior (Orwell's 1984 was not intended to be a "how-to" manual for progressives.)
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To: derllak
Well, we wouldn't want that on our consciences now, would we.
*chuckle*
19 posted on 08/08/2011 6:01:38 PM PDT by Darksheare (You will never defeat Bok Choy!)
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