Posted on 08/08/2011 12:43:39 PM PDT by GSWarrior
The late musician John Denvers love of wilderness is driving an effort to name a peak on a prominent western Colorado mountain after him.
But as it turns out, the peaks location in a wilderness area poses a Rocky-Mountain-high obstacle to the undertakings success.
Littleton resident J.P. McDaniels effort to get the eastern of the twin summits of Mount Sopris south of Carbondale named for Denver, who moved to the Aspen area as a young man, has drawn widespread media and online attention in recent weeks. The buzz has boosted McDaniels petition drive signatures by a couple thousand.
It also has elicited opposition from some whod rather that McDaniel leave alone the landmark named for Richard Sopris, who before serving in the Civil War and being elected mayor of Denver led a prospecting expedition that passed by the mountain.
McDaniels proposal is just ridiculous because everybody calls that Mount Sopris. Both summits are known as Mount Sopris, said Carbondale resident Lou Dawson, a mountaineering guidebook author and the first person to have skied all of Colorados 14,000-foot peaks.
PEAK VERSUS MOUNTAIN?
McDaniel said its important to distinguish between her attempt to name an unnamed peak on the mountain, and renaming the mountain itself.
It gets a little confusing, and I think thats why some people have become real possessive of the mountain, and theyre not understanding that Mount Sopris would be named Mount Sopris no matter what, she said.
Indeed, It is possible to name an unnamed peak on a mountain without affecting the name of the mountain in any way; numerous peaks on a mountain of one name can have each peak named with a different name without affecting the official name of the larger mountain, according to correspondence Dawson received from the U.S. Board on Geographic Names and posted on his http://www.wildsnow.com website.
But Lou Yost, executive secretary for the board, said a big challenge for McDaniels proposal which he has yet to receive could be the wilderness area question. Mount Sopris is in the Maroon Bells-Snowmass Wilderness Area.
Based on its interpretation of the Wilderness Act of 1964, The board just feels that applying any more new names to features in wilderness areas detracts from the wilderness experience that future generations will have and it wont do it unless the proponent makes an overriding case, Yost said.
He said exceptions normally would be made for reasons such as safety, or perhaps educational purposes.
Yost said the board receives about 300 to 350 applications for proposed geographic names or name changes each year. Perhaps 80 to 85 percent are approved in general, but that percentage falls to probably 4 percent or less when the proposals involve wilderness areas, he said.
ENVIRONMENTAL TROUBADOUR
McDaniel wants the east peak named for Denver because he wrote his hit Rocky Mountain High, which in 2007 became Colorados second official state song, at Williams Lake, east of that peak. It also overlooks the Windstar Land Conservancy, nearly 1,000 acres that Denver donated to the public.
McDaniel got to know Denver while working with the Windstar Foundation environmental education nonprofit, which he co-founded. He died in 1997 while piloting an experimental aircraft that crashed.
Although McDaniel knows Denvers music well, she said her petition drive is motivated by his environmentalism, which included working on behalf of conservation groups and causes such as replanting trees and protecting the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge.
He won many different awards for his conservation work, his environmental work. I think some people dont realize this, how active he was with environmental causes, she said.
At least one-third of his songs also are nature-oriented, McDaniel said.
McDaniel said she is aware of the challenge of getting something named in a wilderness area, but she thinks Denver qualifies for an exception to the boards rule.
I think because it would be John Denver and all of the work that he has put forth, all of the effort that he has put forth with wilderness preservation, I think that it would be appropriate to name a peak in his honor, she said.
Speaking Thursday, she said she had collected probably 2,800 signatures for her petition, and she hoped to submit them to the board by weeks end.
I havent really had time to promote it. Im just really surprised that it has taken off to the caliber that it has, she said.
STIRRING SOPRIS SUPPORTERS
Opposition has taken off as well, including through an obligatory Facebook page (Dont Name Mt. Sopris After John Denver, 157 members).
What? Change the name of Mt. Sopris to John Denver Mountain? No way! declared the homepage of the website of the Carbondale-based Mount Sopris Historical Society, which urged people to voice their opposition. (However, the website since has been changed to simply suggest submitting comments of any kind and make clear the society board has yet to take a position on the issue.)
That websites original objection to renaming the mountain would appear to demonstrate the confusion McDaniel says continues to exist on the issue. But Dawson says confusion is one of the problems with trying to name a peak of a mountain that already has a different name.
Mount Sopris, in Pitkin County, towers majestically over the lower Roaring Fork Valley with east and west summits that are of the same height, 12,953 feet. Dawson said most people who climb the mountain go up the east peak and say they have climbed Sopris.
And the east summit has a benchmark on it that says Sopris, he said.
As an alternative, he has proposed on his website that McDaniel seek to have a beautiful, unnamed 12,176-foot peak just above Williams Lake named for Denver.
McDaniel is hopeful when it comes to her effort, but she is leaving the door open to other possibilities.
Mount Sopris, I think it would be the ideal mountain, but certainly theres other mountains that could be named after John in that area, she said.
Yost said the board has gotten perhaps 20 to 25 comments regarding McDaniels proposal, despite having not yet received the proposal itself. Most of those comments are in opposition to the change, he said.
He said the board would seek input at the county level, from the U.S. Forest Service and from the Colorado Geographical Names Board before making any decision.
He said in the best-case scenario, consideration of a name change could take eight months. But he expects the process would take longer for McDaniels proposal because wilderness is involved.
He added, I have the feeling that from the response weve had so far therell be a lot of differing opinions on it.
Billed as the "most photographed mountain in America."
Henry Deutschendorf’s
Peak.
The economy is resembling John Denver’s plane.
Can’t they find an old crater to name?
Why don’t they leave Mt. Sopris alone, and rename Monterey Bay after JD?
Oh God I’m An Ocean Buoy
-not by John Denver
(Sing to the tune of “Thank God I’m a Country Boy”)
Took a flight from the farm
and I never came back
Built a plane from a kit
But I didn’t have the knack
Jumped in the cockpit
and downed a six-pack
And now I’m an ocean buoy
Well, I grabbed the controls
And I started to fiddle
Got flames coming up
On my face like a griddle
Air flight ain’t nothing
But a funny, funny riddle
So now I’m an ocean buoy.
Well, my head’s chopped in pieces
And my body’s full of dents
They’ll identify me
By my guitar’s fingerprints
I tried to “dry out”
But instead got a rinse
And now I’m an ocean buoy
Well, it’s really farrr out
When you’re down ‘neath the water
I just ain’t been right
Since I started on the bottle
I reach for Jim Beam
But instead grab the throttle
And now I’m an ocean buoy
Well, I grabbed the controls
And I started to fiddle
Got flames coming up
On my face like a griddle
George Burns appeared beside me
and we prayed just a little
Oh God! I’m an ocean buoy!
The day’s just about over
And I’m sinking kinda low
In the undersea world
of Jacques Cousteau
Calypso can you find me
By the bubbles that I blow
‘Cause now I’m an ocean buoy
Dumb idea.
Funny!
Being as your such a huge John Denver fan, I thought you’d really enjoy post #8. :P
LOL, that does sorta work.
Now if Ole JD had put the hooch in the tank instead of his gut...
J Denver buzzed Chuck Norris and blew his hat off.
Never mess with the hat.
Lol!
Shhhh! Let’s don’t tell Mike “HE WAS NOT DRUNK!” Jeffries.
I’d feel bad if he has a stroke.
Compromise: name the largest city in the region after him.
The scenery was beautiful till this long haired hippie creep came on and tried to sing. It was so bad I had to turn off the sound just to enjoy the mountain scenery.
Then years later came Denver's attempt to stop some construction by claiming the fuel trucks would ruin the area, and later it was found that while criticizing others fuel usage HE was found to be hoarding thousands of gallons of fuel.
Yeah...and then he died crashing a fuel laden plane into the pristine Pacific Ocean!!!
John Denver may be many things, but hippy is not one of them. He is too clean to be a hippy.
A lot of people find much comfort in his music. I always thought he was a goofy folksinger with a thin voice and mostly lightweight songs.
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