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To: AfricanChristian

You’re kind of right, but the miss is monstrous.

We do not control the IMF and the World Bank. They were created by the Fabian Socialists (led by Keynes) at Bretton Woods.

Their goal is the same as the communists: totalitarianism.

They differ only in the method of attaining that goal.

You are confusing who is guilty of what.

There were some Americans who backed this: namely the American communists, American socialists, liberal Democrats, Progressives, and even GOPers who share the same goal.

They are the ones who brought this system to America. Most of America did not agree to it. It was forced on us. The system was designed initially to assure an economic web that would assure mutual economic destruction should any nation seek to make their nation wealthier than the others. Once that was put in place, as it is now, the secondary goal was to create a global currency controlled by a worldwide central bank.

The Fabian Socialists knew that if they could control the money of the world, they could control the world and force their view of Utopia on humanity.

We are very close to seeing the succeed.

But please don’t blame those of us who have fought this march toward totalitarianism even though we are a part of the system. It’s like blaming people who eat for the food poisoning someone else suffers.

The fix is to remove all Statists from office, to return to the roots of limited government that our Founding Fathers created, and to return a truly free-market system.

The above ‘system’ is what led to America’s whirlwind ascent economically in the 19th century. And it was prosperity combined with America’s freedoms that so annoyed the super elite that they financed people such as Marx and his proteges.

Their original goal (which dovetailed perfectly with the later socialists) was first and foremost to destroy the middle class of America, because they were a threat to the ruling elite. They had many approaches to this, one was to destroy the concept of private property. Another was to demonize the history of America through the education system. Another was to take over the media and turn it in to a propaganda machine. Another was to coalesce as many disparate minority groups as possible, bind them together to come to power, and then suppress them while switching allegiance to the norm of the masses.

Does any of this sound familiar?


57 posted on 08/07/2011 1:49:03 PM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival.)
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe

The fix is to remove all Statists from office, to return to the roots of limited government that our Founding Fathers created, and to return a truly free-market system.


I don’t think that’s possible now. It’s gone too far.


62 posted on 08/07/2011 2:01:53 PM PDT by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe

[From “The Naked Communist,” by Cleon Skousen]

CURRENT COMMUNIST GOALS

1. U.S. acceptance of coexistence as the only alternative to atomic war.

2. U.S. willingness to capitulate in preference to engaging in atomic war.

3. Develop the illusion that total disarmament [by] the United States would be a demonstration of moral strength.

4. Permit free trade between all nations regardless of Communist affiliation and regardless of whether or not items could be used for war.

5. Extension of long-term loans to Russia and Soviet satellites.

6. Provide American aid to all nations regardless of Communist domination.

7. Grant recognition of Red China. Admission of Red China to the U.N.

8. Set up East and West Germany as separate states in spite of Khrushchev’s promise in 1955 to settle the German question by free elections under supervision of the U.N.

9. Prolong the conferences to ban atomic tests because the United States has agreed to suspend tests as long as negotiations are in progress.

10. Allow all Soviet satellites individual representation in the U.N.

11. Promote the U.N. as the only hope for mankind. If its charter is rewritten, demand that it be set up as a one-world government with its own independent armed forces. (Some Communist leaders believe the world can be taken over as easily by the U.N. as by Moscow. Sometimes these two centers compete with each other as they are now doing in the Congo.)

12. Resist any attempt to outlaw the Communist Party.

13. Do away with all loyalty oaths.

14. Continue giving Russia access to the U.S. Patent Office.

15. Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States.

16. Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions by claiming their activities violate civil rights.

17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers’ associations. Put the party line in textbooks.

18. Gain control of all student newspapers.

19. Use student riots to foment public protests against programs or organizations which are under Communist attack.

20. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policymaking positions.

21. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.

22. Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all forms of artistic expression. An American Communist cell was told to “eliminate all good sculpture from parks and buildings, substitute shapeless, awkward and meaningless forms.”

23. Control art critics and directors of art museums. “Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art.”

24. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them “censorship” and a violation of free speech and free press.

25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV.

26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as “normal, natural, healthy.”

27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with “social” religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity which does not need a “religious crutch.”

28. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of “separation of church and state.”

29. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old-fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.

30. Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the “common man.”

31. Belittle all forms of American culture and discourage the teaching of American history on the ground that it was only a minor part of the “big picture.” Give more emphasis to Russian history since the Communists took over.

32. Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture—education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc.

33. Eliminate all laws or procedures which interfere with the operation of the Communist apparatus.

34. Eliminate the House Committee on Un-American Activities.

35. Discredit and eventually dismantle the FBI.

36. Infiltrate and gain control of more unions.

37. Infiltrate and gain control of big business.

38. Transfer some of the powers of arrest from the police to social agencies. Treat all behavioral problems as psychiatric disorders which no one but psychiatrists can understand [or treat].

39. Dominate the psychiatric profession and use mental health laws as a means of gaining coercive control over those who oppose Communist goals.

40. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.

41. Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents.

42. Create the impression that violence and insurrection are legitimate aspects of the American tradition; that students and special-interest groups should rise up and use [”]united force[”] to solve economic, political or social problems.

43. Overthrow all colonial governments before native populations are ready for self-government.

44. Internationalize the Panama Canal.

45. Repeal the Connally reservation so the United States cannot prevent the World Court from seizing jurisdiction [over domestic problems. Give the World Court jurisdiction] over nations and individuals alike.

http://www.uhuh.com/nwo/communism/comgoals.htm


77 posted on 08/07/2011 2:27:00 PM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (It is possible to both promote Palin and support Bachmann at the same time, ya know.)
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe

The US has the most voting rights in both the IMF and the World Bank and this has remained constant from US president to US president (both Republican and Democrat). So I am not buying the “Fabian Socialist” story.

If you study IMF policies, you’ll understand that they are quite far from “Fabian Socialism”. IMF policy has more to do with Friedman than Keynes. Ask any Latin American finance minister and he’d tell you that the IMF insists on deregulation of the economy, market driven exchange rates and lowering of trade barriers. That was the basis of the famous “Washington Consensus” and the main political proponents of that consensus were Thatcher and Reagan.

Please study the IMF response to the Asian economic crisis of the late nineties. The prescription was the same deregulation and market driven exchange rates. The result was a run on local currencies like the Thai baht and economic disaster. Predictably, Asian governments junked IMF advice and accumulated vast reserves of foreign currencies (primarily dollars) to ensure that such events never occur again.

Why do you think the US insisted that the British and French dissolve their empires? The British and French empires had elaborate tariff structures that prevented the Americans from selling their goods to wide swathes of the World’s population.

Free trade was good when America benefited from it.

Fifty years after going around the World preaching the virtues of “Free Trade”, you cannot simply pull the plug, retreat into a shell and expect to thrive. It just won’t work.


142 posted on 08/08/2011 1:23:24 AM PDT by AfricanChristian
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe
Re: post #77 number 29

Cokie Roberts on Downgrade: 'The Problem That We Have Here Is the Constitution'

144 posted on 08/08/2011 5:02:07 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (It is possible to both promote Palin and support Bachmann at the same time, ya know.)
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