Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Debt crisis: Global markets plunge as eurozone contagion speads
The Telegraph ^ | 8/4/2011 | James Hall, and Richard Blackden

Posted on 08/04/2011 6:30:42 PM PDT by bruinbirdman

click here to read article


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-25 next last

1 posted on 08/04/2011 6:30:46 PM PDT by bruinbirdman
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: bruinbirdman

Charging folks to store their money is pret’near a sign of widespread and massive deflation ~


2 posted on 08/04/2011 6:43:27 PM PDT by muawiyah
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: bruinbirdman

Heading to the next crash.

Forget gold. Get arible land, the means to produce, and the means to defend it.


3 posted on 08/04/2011 7:01:32 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: redgolum

I’m thinking you’re right. I’m no farmer though. I’d probably starve! I have three plots of land in New Mexico. It just doesn’t rain here!! LOL or I’ll cry!


4 posted on 08/04/2011 7:25:13 PM PDT by refermech
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: muawiyah

Really makes no sense. The bank is running low of cash, so they charge customers to make DEPOSITS.

Also, the naysayers here on FR better start looking at all this info coming in. We are very close to a worldwide complete monetary meltdown.

The Euro is near dead, and all the countries are starting to fall. Efforts to prop it up are failing. Japan is still rebuilding after the earthquake and their economy has been half-dead for years anyway.

China is on the table also as its banks are stretched to the limit. If we go down, they will go down, as their customers will stop buying and their whole economy is built on selling cheap junk to foreigners.


5 posted on 08/04/2011 7:28:36 PM PDT by packrat35 (America is rapidly becoming a police state that East Germany could be proud of!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: packrat35
Sorry, there's the higher order economy in China and it consists of the manufacture of cement, rebar and plasterboard. They make new buildings out of it.

Then, there's the lower order economy and that's fully in the control over their 1 billion peasants and it consists of pressed earth houses with steel or straw roofs, pigs in the front yard, ducks in the back, and the organized growing of highly nutritious fruits and vegetables near the houses, and staples like rice, wheat, barley and oats out fruther ~ or in large communal fields.

It's pretty resiliant. Ony drought is able to disturb that economy very much.

In between those two exceedingly stable economies there's the manufacturing of household goods and electronics for foreigners.

China was around for thousands of years before either foreigners or electronics were a concern to them.

6 posted on 08/04/2011 7:44:52 PM PDT by muawiyah
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: packrat35

NONE of the banks are short of cash. They have all the cash they can handle. They are short of borrowers ~ qualified borrowers!


7 posted on 08/04/2011 7:45:47 PM PDT by muawiyah
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: bruinbirdman

Ring around the Bozo’s
Pockets full of Euros
Ashes to ashes
All fall DOWN!


8 posted on 08/04/2011 7:48:32 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans: Don't read their lips - watch their hands.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: muawiyah

China has been around for thousands of years but it has never had a 1.4 billion person population. I think people are starting to talk more seriously about “peak humanity” now.


9 posted on 08/04/2011 7:51:51 PM PDT by Sawdring
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: muawiyah
" Sorry, there's the higher order economy in China and it consists of the manufacture of cement, rebar and plasterboard. They make new buildings out of it. "

The road to nowhere....

It's a artificially propped up manufacture economy.
They have built all those condos with no one in China able to afford to buy, it's going to end sometime soon, their money trees won't last for to long.
Last year and this year they have gone through a wave of factory closings.
Not so long ago when China's government had the banks make it more easy to loan money, but now ? the government is forced to raise interest rates and are clamping down on loaning policies.... things don't look to rosy in China either now.
10 posted on 08/04/2011 7:55:26 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: Sawdring
China has had periods where different regions have had higher carrying capacities than they do at present. It's only in modern times that they've been able to take advantage of the variations ~ for the benefit of the whole.

That doesn't mean they can go much above 1.4 billion people. On the other hand they recently discovered they have a demographic deficit in the ranks of young child bearing age women due to the 1 chil/1 fambly policy.

They may well have invested too much money in colleges as a consequence ~ if you don't have students, you don't need the classrooms.

11 posted on 08/04/2011 7:57:19 PM PDT by muawiyah
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: muawiyah

What are they going to do with those millions of wifeless men?

Guess they won’t be procreating.


12 posted on 08/04/2011 8:29:30 PM PDT by txhurl (Did you want to talk or fish?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: txhurl
They will learn to share.

That's been the technique for thousands of years.

13 posted on 08/04/2011 8:56:09 PM PDT by muawiyah
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: muawiyah

I remember the tiny foot bondage that went on for centuries.
I suppose it represents slavery, this woman can’t run away.

Wonder if it’s still ongoing.


14 posted on 08/04/2011 9:07:57 PM PDT by txhurl (Did you want to talk or fish?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: txhurl
It's probably not going on at all anywhere. The Chicoms found that banning binding and a number of other standard practices made them very popular with slightly more than 1/2 the population ~ the women!

If they'd held free, fair and open elections (like many folks used to always propose thinking that'd get rid of commies) the Chicoms would have won.

15 posted on 08/04/2011 9:25:43 PM PDT by muawiyah
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: muawiyah

True. The question is: where to invest? gold prices are sky-high, real-estate is weak.


16 posted on 08/04/2011 10:42:11 PM PDT by Cronos ( W Szczebrzeszynie chrzaszcz brzmi w trzcinie I Szczebrzeszyn z tego slynie.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: bruinbirdman

Can’t eat gold.


17 posted on 08/04/2011 10:43:26 PM PDT by ronnyquest (I spent 20 years in the Army fighting the enemies of freedom only to see fascism elected at home.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: redgolum

yet, with the way the global marketplace goes, most of us need clothes, etc that simple subsistence farming won’t provide. It will be ok for a 1800s style of life, but how many can stomach that?


18 posted on 08/04/2011 10:43:27 PM PDT by Cronos ( W Szczebrzeszynie chrzaszcz brzmi w trzcinie I Szczebrzeszyn z tego slynie.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: packrat35
The bank is running low of cash, so they charge customers to make DEPOSITS.

Because they need to pay interest on the savings accounts and they need to do something with that cash -- they don't know what to invest in.

19 posted on 08/04/2011 10:44:13 PM PDT by Cronos ( W Szczebrzeszynie chrzaszcz brzmi w trzcinie I Szczebrzeszyn z tego slynie.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: muawiyah

I don’t think the Chinese rural economy is quite so stable. The population is huge and the demand for meat is growing. Plus,they need the foreign capital to keep the worker-bees happily working instead of demanding political change


20 posted on 08/04/2011 10:45:52 PM PDT by Cronos ( W Szczebrzeszynie chrzaszcz brzmi w trzcinie I Szczebrzeszyn z tego slynie.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-25 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson