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To: MizSterious

Again, by concentrating on Jeffs and the “F” LDS we’re giving the LDS a pass. Think about this. If Jeffs is a sick, twisted pervert, so was the founder of this “religion” and at least every “prophet” until 1890.


25 posted on 08/03/2011 10:50:22 AM PDT by Terry Mross (I'll only vote for a SECOND party.)
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To: Terry Mross

What do you mean “we”? I think what is happening is that the entire group, with or without the “f,” is being examined thanks to this trial. Had they made it a trial about polygamy, this wouldn’t be happening. Texas instead focused on one of the worst of their crimes: raping little girls. People are taking a second look at the writings of the church founders and recoiling in horror. The “I am Mormon” ad campaign will not help in this instance.


26 posted on 08/03/2011 10:58:57 AM PDT by MizSterious (Apparently, there's no honor when it comes to someone else's retirement funds.)
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To: Terry Mross; All
If Jeffs is a sick, twisted pervert, so was the founder of this “religion” and at least every “prophet” until 1890.

Lds had three different "prophets" during the 1890s and 1900s when their general authorities secretly solemnized an additional 260+ plural marriages...Woodruff, Lorenzo Snow, Joseph F. Smith.

Then in the mid-1960s, on both Harold B. Lee and Spencer W. Kimball's watch as Lds "prophets," Lds "apostle" Bruce R. McConkie in his book "Mormon Doctrine" claimed the Mormon jesus was pro-polygamy in that he would bring it back when he returned.

Harold B. Lee specifically assigned a First President -- Kimball (one of his two counselors) -- to oversee McConkie's revision of that book for a 1966 republishing date. Kimball then became one of the next "prophets" after Lee.

So you have at least five more Lds "prophets" making pro-polygamy gestures/comments/actions/solemnizations & even engaging in polygamy themselves (Woodruff & Joseph F. Smith) after 1890.

And people thought Mormon leaders were "straightforward" in their "clean living" image.

50 posted on 08/03/2011 8:07:32 PM PDT by Colofornian (Tenses of polygamy: "As fLDS now are, LDS once were. As fLDS now are, LDS may become.")
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