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To: rcrngroup
The American people and our once great nation, the USA. Piss on the Repukes like Boner & McConnell & establishment elitist Repukes who sold & betrayed the election of 2010 and the people who voted for these bastards.

The American people are the losers because they elected Barack Obama and gave him a super majority for 2 years in which to create havoc. I'd like to know just what you would have done IF you only control one branch of government. Just what would you have done?

Yes, we all wanted something better but reasonable people can also count. The idiots in Nevada returned Reid to office. The idiots in California returned Boxer to office. We could have had Tom Campbell as Senator in California had not so many of the same types of people who post on FR gone with Carly Fiorina. We could have had another Republican in Delaware if those foolish people had not put up O'Donnell instead of Mike Castle. O'Donnell was slaughtered in the general election. That's a 6 vote swing in the Senate.

Progress is in made in increments. We don't yet have the votes to achieve what we want and it's foolish to believe we could have got any better deal than what we did. In order to really change things, we must win in 2012.
9 posted on 08/02/2011 11:43:15 AM PDT by truthguy (Good intentions are not enough.)
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To: truthguy

Progress is in made in increments. We don’t yet have the votes to achieve what we want and it’s foolish to believe we could have got any better deal than what we did. In order to really change things, we must win in 2012.
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i’m far from an expert, but Rush, Mark Levin, Club for Growth, Heritage Foundation, Jim DeMint, and many others, say you are wrong.
doing NOTHING, would have been better, than giving Obama another 2 TRILLION to spend.
instead of forcing HIM to cut freebies to HIS base,
all this did was dishearted the people who literally sent money they couldn’t afford, to send Tea Party candidates like Alan West to DC, who then betrayed them.

and funny, but the Democrats seem to do VERY well, with 1/3.
and look at the spending increase they got in 2007, when the GOP still had the WH.

and if we DO win, in 2013 there will be a 17 TRILLION debt, downgraded AAA rating, double digit unemployment and inflation.

Holding the line NOW, for REAL spending cuts, like the Coburn plan (9 trillion in REAL cuts) would have SAVED the economy, and sparked a REAL recovery!

Obama has increased spending by 40%. and we cut it back by 2%.
wow. great victory.

cutting an increase, is NOT a decrease.
and this bill passes the 2012 and 2013 budgets by “deeming”,
and has BUILT IN increases of 5%, and allow the Bush tax cuts to expire.
wow. great victory.

another such victory, and the war will be lost...


11 posted on 08/02/2011 12:10:27 PM PDT by Elendur (It is incumbent on every generation to pay its own debts as it goes. - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: truthguy

“Foolish People?”

You sound like Hugh Hewitt on KRLA-870AM.

I prefer Mark Levin on KABC-790AM. He, & me are tired of ‘your way’ -— it is time to act.

I recommend taking a hand gun self-defense course, and purchasing firearms as soon as possible.

When our government refuses to listen, we will have to make them listen.

And, if you do not understand what point I am trying to make, you are part of the problem. What I am saying is, we will defend our God-given rights, those rights carefully and thoughtfully listed in the Declaration of Independence and the U.S. Constitution. The ideas that became the Bill of Rights, were discussed thoroughly by our Founding Fathers in the Federalist Papers.

Seccession by the States from the “Federal entity” is a solution. The States will retake the power assigned to themselves, which was stolen from them by the Fed.

Do you understand?

Read our founding documents, and think about what is discussed therein.


16 posted on 08/02/2011 12:41:34 PM PDT by kilt1iron
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To: truthguy

[I’d like to know just what you would have done IF you only control one branch of government. Just what would you have done?]

I would have refused to raise the debt limit. There you go, mission accomplished, balanced budget. That is what the House should have done.


19 posted on 08/02/2011 12:58:49 PM PDT by KansasGirl
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To: truthguy
I'd like to know just what you would have done IF you only control one branch of government. Just what would you have done?

We had the votes in the House, if only Boehner & Cantor & the spineless Repukes would have exercised it. There were 2 CR's (Continuing Resolutions) in Dec 2010 and April 2011, in which the House Repubs simply kicked the can down the road to avoid dealing with increasing the debt ceiling or submitting a budget for 2012. Finally when they could not delay any further at this time, they wilted like flowers in a scorching heat, and gave 0dumb0 the crown jewels, namely a $2.4 TRILLION increase to the debt limit till after the Nov 2012 elections. Boehner, McConnell & the Repub weenies just gave the 2012 election back to 0dumb0 and to the House & Senate demoRATs, along with a $2.4 TRILLION war chest. The House will flip back to the demoRATs in 2012 and the Senate will see more DemoRATs rather than fewer.

Funding originates in the House. If Boehner & the Repubs had any balls, they should have done the following immediately 2 months ago.

All Boehner & the Repukes had to do was to set the stage right at the very beginning and to declare emphatically with no hesitation.....

1) Not one penny increase to the debt limit

2) Mandatory spending cuts of $1 Trillion in 2012, including defunding Odumb0Care entirely.

3) To hell with "spending cuts" that reach out for 10 years. It is totally false & bogus & will be overturned with the next socialist (and socialist lite) Congress.

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They did none of the above and instead gave 0dumb0 what he was really after, the $2.4 TRILLION increase to the debt ceiling. Now 0dumb0 can spend & bankrupt us like crazy with or without tax hikes, because he will either simply borrow more or print more money.

Boehner & the Repukes blew it in huge way.

23 posted on 08/02/2011 1:52:52 PM PDT by rcrngroup
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To: truthguy
We don't yet have the votes to achieve what we want and it's foolish to believe we could have got any better deal than what we did. In order to really change things, we must win in 2012.

I'm not going to 'blame' anyone. In view of the nationally coordinated and likely fraudulent campaigns against Angle and O'Donnell with incredible press attacks, I don't believe any other candidate would ahve fared much better, just maybe had more dirt to dig.

Regardless, I think when the sh*tfitting is done, everyone should pull their skivvies out of their cracks and get down to business.

We are in this for the long haul. This isn't some one-day-picnic in the park deal, although those are nice.

If we have the sense to take a page from their playbook, we make progress where we can. We run a couple of outrageous candidates--outrageously Conservative candidates--especially in districts we do not expect to take anyway, and let the media paint them as "extremists" so everyone else of ours on the ballot looks more mainstream, even to them. Let the tide shift. Let's move the middle of the road back to the middle and get it off the left shoulder.

The biggest and most consistent mistake the Republican Party has made over the last three decades is to let the media paint someone as an "extremist" and then shrink away from that person, the truth, and being right to avoid being painted as "extremists" too.

Instead of throwing ANYONE on our side under the bus, let's embrace them, and let them lead the way like an icebreaker.

The Left has used their extremists this way, with great success, while the Republicans have painted themselves into the Liberal corner trying to seem "Moderate" the whole time they have let the Left redefine the term.

This isn't happening overnight. A minimum of three Senate elections, and maybe five, to turn the tide, and we have to build enough of a group in the House to hold the line. If only half the Freshmen got Beltway Fever, that's far better than business as usual.

The ones who forgot how they got to DC should face primary challenges.

We won't get ahead by voting against RINOs in the general, but we can toss them there. In the meantime, they are placeholders who might not vote Democrat every time while we make progress on other fronts and in other districts.

It will take time. THe MSM will to continue to attack us every step of the way, revile us as "extremists" and keep hyping the "terrorist" meme even as the Government arms criminals and excuses 'flash mobs' and the obviously violent and terrorist of other groups of people who are not us.

Expect as much, they have been doing this, they are just getting more shrill. I really don't think any more people believe this than did swallow that dung sandwich in the first place.

I pray the Republic can survive this crap.

31 posted on 08/02/2011 8:59:22 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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