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To: Kaslin
Can Islam Be Reformed?

Perhaps -- if it ceases to be Islam.

47 posted on 08/02/2011 6:55:11 AM PDT by _a_0_0_
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To: _a_0_0_; Cronos
Can Islam Be Reformed?

Perhaps -- if it ceases to be Islam.

Best simple answer, imo, in this thread.

Actually, one can reasonably argue that Islam has already been *reformed* (in a kinder, gentler & more modern ways) - The Baha'i Faith is a very good example of Islam *reformed* by the mentioned definition.

The Baha'i faith has its origins in Shia Islam (which is a main branch of Islam itself). It came into existence in the early 19th century in Iran. The original founders of the faith were ALL born & practicing Shia Moslems & thereafter most of its followers were born Shia Moslems too.

The faith based its original & core tenets on & drew from the Koran. It also very much recognizes & includes practices by other Abrahamic faiths, such as Judaism & Christianity. As well as incorporting elements & concepts from Zoroastrianism. The Baha'i faith is also messianic; which means it believes in the (second Coming) of the Messiah.

However, the Baha'i Faith, now, considers itself an "independent religion", yet an Abrahamic one. (The other classified Abrahamic religions being Judaism, Christianity & Islam).

But, the Baha'i faith, is not only Not recognized by Shia, Sunni or other mainstream sects of Islam & most moslems, but Baha'is are actively persecuted by them in a variety of Moslem countries, not just Iran. The Baha'is are commonly known as heretics & apostates in Moslem countries. That's since early 19th century to date.

I guess, when we've a firm definition of what is *reform* in Islam, and when, how & by whom that *reform* will be or should be officially accepted, then we may rejoice. Bearing in mind that Islam has been around for almost 1400 yrs already, w/out *reform*.

111 posted on 08/03/2011 9:25:33 AM PDT by odds
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