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You are probably right but I hate compromise with the left it always means we lose. I understand we only control one house and since that's the case we create a huge game of Mexicon standoff and looks as if we are loosing it. Making your argument A CNN poll has us,our side, as the cause of no debt ceiling agreement. It's biased I know but could be harmful.

After listening to Plouffe and DNC Dave here is approximately where we are.

The deal appears to be stacking up more or less like this. Initially, there will be a billion dollar deal,over ten years which means little or nada budget cuts first year,and then a super bi--partisan committee that will decide how the next 1.8 trillion will be cut,and we already know how god that works just having the experience, or automatic cuts come into play when the left is finally out of office.

Were we played again? Certainly looks like it to me.

Ploouffe and DNC Dave both played up the 60 hours until we suffer a financial collapse, such a huge lie I won't even go into it,repeat the lie and then continue with the usual class warfare we need, taxes not cuts etc. We really wanted 4 trillion but Boehner would not allow us to.... etc etc. Just more reasons why we need regime change in 2012.

Rush will probably say tomorrow we should have stood our ground since these guys don't have to guts to put a budget,debt ceiling or anything in print in black and white on paper and we will get the blame for anything that goes wrong anyway so why not stand tall.

The final bill awaits to be seen.

I just hope we don't pay a price for not standing up for the Penny, one cent plan which is the right way to go.

Anything the Super-bipartisan Congress committee does will be overcome by the election of 2012.

In fact, think of it!

All the posturing and preening NOW means nothing, if a NEW Senate is in the Capitol and a NEW President is in the White House.

2010 was a start. 2012 will either finish that start or it will be our end. I am convinced of this.

The other thing I am convinced of is that the economy is NOT going to get better. These means Obama will lose, or the voters in this country deserves what they get.

Rush will probably say tomorrow we should have stood our ground since these guys don't have to guts to put a budget,debt ceiling or anything in print in black and white on paper and we will get the blame for anything that goes wrong anyway so why not stand tall.

Whoops, missed this!

We have Rod, we have!!! We've stood our ground. We own the Balanced Budget Ammendment that most people want. Sure it won't pass, but we tried. The dems HAVE TO BE the opposers of that.

People didn't want Obama care, the dems gave it to us anyway.

People want a Balanced Budget, even if it means we have to put that in the US Constitution. The dems oppose it.

See the pattern, anyone?