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To: FreeReign
I think in the end, we will have Boehner, Pelosi, the rest of the Democrats, and liberal Republicans unite to pass the final bill over the objections of the Tea Party freshmen and other conservatives. Obama and Reid will have gotten an immediate increase in the debt ceiling in exchange for projected future cuts along with a super panel can can recommend tax increases. Bonus points to the Obama left: They will have divided the GOP against itself. What a mess.
240 posted on 07/31/2011 9:29:46 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: Truth29
It's what Boehner needs to repeat over and over again if he chooses to go down the bad deal path, to set up for the 2012 elections. I don't think he'll wage a wordwar of words. He cares too much about what the media thinks.

think in the end, we will have Boehner, Pelosi, the rest of the Democrats, and liberal Republicans unite to pass the final bill over the objections of the Tea Party freshmen and other conservatives. Obama and Reid will have gotten an immediate increase in the debt ceiling in exchange for projected future cuts along with a super panel can can recommend tax increases. Bonus points to the Obama left: They will have divided the GOP against itself. What a mess.

I agree. Boehner will take a bad deal, the media will compliment Boehner, and Boehner will say very little to criticize the Democrats, Obama and the deal itself.

Come the 2012 elections, we will probably win the White House but the Senate and House elections for the Republicans will be a mess.

Tea Party folks will be mad and the mushy middle type of voters, will think that the deal was "good", because Boehner will be quoted as saying that the deal was "good".

249 posted on 07/31/2011 9:43:46 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: Truth29
Bonus points to the Obama left: They will have divided the GOP against itself. What a mess.

The GOP will be divided only as long as the key players want to be divided. When I look at what has happened the last few weeks, I see the new guys, who are a sizable minority in the House, and the establishment both get a sense of the other's strengths and weaknesses.

That can be a valuable improvement in understanding the other players on your team, or it can be a source of division. How you react will depend on whether you think the team victory is important, or your individual stardom is more important.

256 posted on 07/31/2011 9:58:13 AM PDT by Bernard (When the only Problem is overspending, all the Solutions look like TAX INCREASES to liberals...)
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So I must take a moment for some levity. Well y'all might not laugh but by me it's a hoot.

Our church pastor sends out the weekly bulletin with a whispered caveat that we must all be polite and welcoming to our "summer visitors". Heh.

My rule of thumb is to start the mockery at Memoral Day and begin winding down by Labor Day. Okay, I try to be discrete with my smirks but./...

Below a pic I managed to get on my cell phones on my way to church. Note the hands and feet sticking out of the back of the car. That's my Jeep hood as I snapped from behind my windshield.

Well I thought it was cute, probably a tourist cause Sussex Countians are way too serious for this sort of thing, insert smirk here.

Anyway, so I'm in church and a whole pew of tourists come in. You can tell the tourists cause there are always about twelve of them piling into one pew, they're always wearing shorts and showing lots of tanned skin, they often still have sand on the back of their legs.

One of the females of this troop, directly in front of me mind you, has on some kind of halter top affair. Yon ladies know what a halter top is, most likely, for the men, this is a woman's top that takes the neckline up to, well, the neck, with a tie bowed in the back of the neck to hold it up. The backs of halter tops vary, most times there's a real low bottom band leaving most of the back bare.

This lady had a little cross of cloth type of thing but yes, that very low band in the back leaving most of her back bare with just those two crossed strips of cloth covering her back. Her front, understand, was completely covered, her back, mostly bare.

So okay, I'm not convinced that this sort of attire is proper for church but hey, they're tourists and we have a very lax dress code for our seashore location, so okay.

THIS woman, heh, decided to wear a bra and so okay, this is fine. It was a strapless bra but definitely a Playtex type of affair with enough rubber to hold in a nursing cow's udders. Again, this is fine except....the entire back of this huge bra was visible to everyone behind her! ALL OF IT! Even some of the cup part of the bra should she lean over just a bit.

Right in front of me, God has a sense of humor, my pastor warns us not to poke fun so I look everywhere but directly in front of me cause I don't want my Lord to get mad at me.

I so wanted to get a picture of this so I would not have to type the above words but it ain't easy taking a picture in church. I did pull out my cell phone, all silenced as proper for mass. I worked with configuring the thing so that just the lens peeked out of the top of my hymnal and pondering if I couldn't sneakily press the photo button but an attack of sanity came upon me and I put the cell phone away.

At some point, as I prayed to God to keep me from guffawing and not looking around to see if others might be laughing too, I even took off my own little blouse like ersatz jacket that I wear to mass to ward off the air conditioner chill and thought of offering it to her.

Of course that would not do, it would probably make her feel even more self-conscious. Although I knew she was aware of it as she kept fooling with it all during mass, snapping it and all till I wanted to smack her hands.

I wisely did nothing and the whole gang snuck out right after communion.

Sometimes I wonder, out of a church that holds 700 people, why directly in front of me?

Inquiring minds want to know.

266 posted on 07/31/2011 10:05:11 AM PDT by Fishtalk (http://patfish.blogspot.com/201102/freerepublic-ping-list-compilation.html-Freep Ping Blog post)
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To: Truth29
They will have divided the GOP against itself. What a mess

Conservative really need to stop listening to the junk media. Mindless dogmatic lock step loyalty to a particular party is not a sign of winning but of stagnation.

All the real intellectual fervor and movement is on the GOP side. The Dems are stagnant and intellectually bankrupt. The are stuck in the politics of the 1970s.

They may win a political battle here and there but they are losing the war.

2010 was merely the start, not the culmination, of a political revolution in this country. The Tea Party won a victory here too.

Without the Tea Party movement the Debt Ceiling bill and the spending increases are passed automatically and without thought.

No matter what happens here, that the DC machine had to fight this hard for this Debt Ceiling bill is a sign they are losing the larger political war.

This was, to paraphrase Churchill after El Alemanin. "This is not the end, nor even the beginning of the end, it is however, the end of the beginning."

294 posted on 07/31/2011 10:55:27 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving politicians more tax money is like giving addicts free drugs to cure their addiction)
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