Posted on 07/30/2011 8:21:33 PM PDT by Beaten Valve
You’re being far gtoo reasonable for today’s FR. This is a good deal...not an ideal one but still good. There’s spending cuts, no tax increases and if the Congress can’t agree on cuts we get across the board cuts. That sounds pretty good to me.
The reality is that there’s a Democratic President and a Democratic Senate and nothing really, really good is going to happen while those are a reality. Like I said originally - if the House were to hold off past the 2nd, what do you think would happen? Do you really think that Obama would give up and surrender at that point, or do you think that markets would panic (or even that Obama would engineer market panic) and that thirty or so Republicans in the House would give way to a clean increase?
If this is the deal - a big if - the House has managed to extort a lot of concessions from the Democrats in a situation where they could very well have gotten nothing.
Is it everything that I want? Of course it isn’t. But it’s a damned sight better than the alternative. Also, because it’s going to bitterly divide Democrats, it’s anything step on the road to the real reforms that will have to take place beginning noon on January 20, 2013.
Maybe I'm missing something, but, given the dems and spending, isn't that a wash and we're back to today? I know it's late, but sure sounds like it to me. .
Along with not knowing how to turn off his cellphone at his news conference.
I think it's a big win for us in Hobbittland.
Imagine what this train wreck would have looked like without the Tea Partiers in the House.
No. It doesn't make you a liberal. However, voting for one that you absolutely know won't pass could well mean you're nothing but a hypocrite trying to gain political cover. Especially when the context is you trying to gain political cover because you just voted to borrow and spend another couple of TRILLION dollars. Which could well mean you're a liberal, eh?
‘It sounds like you are confusing being a Republican with being a Conservative.’
That’s funny, I spent nearly 20 years in NY and NJ opposing every state GOP choice for public office, except Charley Sandman in NJ (I was on his campaign staff).
Yeah! It might have been the $2.4 TRILLION they voted for instead of that awful $2.8 TRILLION their leaders are settling on! Golly! What a relief!
/s
The reason to have a vote on the BBA even if it will not pass is to demonstrate the actual position of the Dems to voters who will then elect conservatives who will support and pass it.
This deal is garbage. The cuts will be forgotten next time a budget is passed, it’s a joke, a freakin joke - Boehner is an epic fail - he probably just held that vote yesterday so he could go and be petted on the head by Obama. The deadline is only so he can gloat on his birthday video that he’s broadcasting to people.
Cowards and idiots in the Republican leadership!
LOL-I feel your pain my friend.
Since you have demonstrated that you think that the act of winning an election makes someone your opponent, your political advice is not very useful.
This could be the thinking. The old bill, plan "C", is now dead the new bill is plan "D".
I can live with that deal. Remember, we only have one house of Congress. While that’s not nirvana, it does move the ball in the right direction, and is a substantial cave in by the Democrats about what policy is right. Cuts, not tax increases. Balanced Budget vote. Automatic cuts.
I’m thinking this is as good as we could get. A shutdown would not be a fight we could win, in my opinion.
I’ll not take second fiddle to anyone on conservative principles, but this looks like as good as conservatism can get today. Fight on for more tomorrow.
I can live with it. Take the deal.
Well done!
They won't recognize the personhood of the child in the womb and their resultant protection by the Fourteenth Amendment. Seeing how the protection of innocent human life and the provision of equal protection for every individual person is their first sworn duty, I have good reason for my assessment of them.
Personally, I think killing 53 million American babies is nuts.
Better watch out. Windflier will tell on you for being so negative. LOL
Yeah, we have moved the ball from our own goal line to the one. Bob
Actually, twenty Democrat Senators are on record as saying they would vote for a Balanced Budget Amendment.
47 Repubs + 20 Democrats = 67 votes, the required 2/3 majority.
Of course, Democrats have been known to lie...
Gee, I am so surprised!
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