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You Know What Would Be Awesome?
Red State ^ | Erick Erickson

Posted on 07/30/2011 9:14:15 AM PDT by Windy City Conservative

The problem the GOP has now is that because of where John Boehner led the House, the GOP looks increasingly unwilling to act in a bipartisan way or compromise. Most people are missing the fact that raising the debt ceiling is the compromise, but that is beside the point.

Here’s what the House and Senate GOP should do — box the Democrats in.

Hold a press conference and offer the Democrats a clean $2 trillion debt ceiling increase. Hell, make it a $4 trillion debt increase.

Then tell them in exchange they must choose between (A) a complete and total repeal of Obamacare or (B) S. J. Res. 10, the Balanced Budget Amendment with the spending limitation and taxpayer protection components.


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I've been saying something similar for a few weeks now, except I said the bargain should be, increase the debt ceiling for drilling in ANWR and lifting all the drilling moratoriums Obama has put in place.

The beltway inside the box thinkers have done nothing but keep score and for all conservative ideas they say, "that will never happen"

1 posted on 07/30/2011 9:14:17 AM PDT by Windy City Conservative
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To: Windy City Conservative

Agreed. 100% This is the failure of this strategy Boehner followed. He compromised repeatedly throughout the entire process only to be tagged as uncompromising by the opposition in the end. In reality, he was taking discussions made in these myriad of secret meetings with the White House and congressional leaders and constructed a plan, but he allowed them to never ever place anything on the table. Total failure. He has had his good moments and deserves praise for several of his public speeches including this past Monday night and yesterday on the floor, but it still was a public relations failure in the end.

I like the response this morning from Erick Erickson. It is perfect. He’s gotten on my nerves a few times during this process, but he’s been more right than wrong.


2 posted on 07/30/2011 9:19:02 AM PDT by ilgipper (political rhetoric is no substitute for competence (Thomas Sowell))
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To: Windy City Conservative

Absolutely, Eric is always willing to shuffle the chips in our favor. Thank you for posting his work as he seems to me to be informed, perhaps behind closed doors, to an extent that others are not, of what is possible rather than the “CANT’T BE DONE’ crowd. I have wondered if he is Rush’s channel of info on certain issues though Rush has his own sources also. Rush is trusted. Eric is young and energetic for wrecking the business as usual practices.


3 posted on 07/30/2011 9:21:31 AM PDT by RitaOK (We hang together or will hang separately. 2012, or bust)
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To: Windy City Conservative

That’s too much to pay for a single concession. They should offer less increase for a whole bunch of things, say 40, choose any 20. $2 trillion is a lot of money.


4 posted on 07/30/2011 9:23:09 AM PDT by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: RitaOK

If I posted what would be awesome, I would hear a knock at my door.


5 posted on 07/30/2011 9:23:56 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (I can't think of anything clever, so I'll just say, "Obama sucks.")
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To: Windy City Conservative; Liz; AT7Saluki
...increase the debt ceiling for...

...keeping the rookie Hussein off the golf course for the rest of his one and only term.

...releasing any and all recordings of Moochelle eating hamburgers, french fries and fried chicken while telling everyone else it'll kill them.

...shutting up Pelosi until the next election. NOT ONE ANNOYING WORD.

...making Dingy Harry Reid speak at a normal volume instead of the weak, soft whispers we've all had to endure.

6 posted on 07/30/2011 9:28:24 AM PDT by Libloather (The epitome of civility.)
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To: Vermont Lt

A “No Knock” entry might be more likely.


7 posted on 07/30/2011 9:31:06 AM PDT by doc11355
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To: Windy City Conservative; All

Hold a press conference and offer the Democrats a clean $2 trillion debt ceiling increase. Hell, make it a $4 trillion debt increase.

Then tell them in exchange they must choose between (A) a complete and total repeal of Obamacare or (B) S. J. Res. 10, the Balanced Budget Amendment with the spending limitation and taxpayer protection components.
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and Reid and Obama will say... “NO!”.

the Boehner plan raised the ceiling by 2.4 trillion, and will increase the National Deficit by over 9 TRILLION in the next 10 years.
...the dems tabled it.

there are LOTS of good ideas and plans. the 1 percent plan, Tom Coburn’s plan (which oddly got little mention, since in cut the most of ANY plan, including CC&B), etc.

the GOP has bent over backwards for Obama, and he only says “further”.

...just like in the movie “Wargames”, the ONLY winning move, is to NOT PLAY THE GAME.

do NOTHING.


8 posted on 07/30/2011 9:31:33 AM PDT by Elendur (It is incumbent on every generation to pay its own debts as it goes. - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Libloather

LOL!


9 posted on 07/30/2011 9:33:26 AM PDT by lonevoice (Bitter gun clinging schizoprenic hostage taking hobbit)
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To: Windy City Conservative
"... increase the debt ceiling for drilling in ANWR and lifting all the drilling moratoriums Obama has put in place. "

Oh, he'll do that anyway...it's the ace up his sleeve for re-election. I think that sometime early next year he'll life the bans on drilling, that will drive down gas prices and put a lot of people back to work...something for him to brag about on the campaign trail. Of course, as soon as he's "re-elected" (God forbid), he'll put the bans right back on them again.

Obama is a crook, and a con-artist...believing anything he says, about anything, is a direct reflection of the stupidity of said believer.
10 posted on 07/30/2011 9:33:51 AM PDT by FrankR ("If you can't make them see the light, let them feel the heat." - R. Reagan)
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To: Libloather

I disagree with the last one: Dingy Harry’s whole schtick, intentional or not, is to deliver the most outrageous and absurd statements in that feathery , imploring voice because that’s the only way they’ll *sound* reasonable.
This is an exact counterpart to Obama’s “cool”, while Obama sometimes comes across as peeved and petulant, everything he says in the service of his agenda speaks of a demagogue-in-the-making. Last thing I want to hear is Harry Reid speaking at normal volume.
Reid’s presentation is designed to have you NOT pay attention to the ‘substance’ but only the ‘style’: you leave not quite knowing or remembering what he’s said, but feeling that you wouldn’t want to hurt Grandpa’s feelings by finding fault with him.


11 posted on 07/30/2011 9:41:52 AM PDT by supremedoctrine (No need for a tagline, but here it is anyway..........)
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To: doc11355

No kidding....


12 posted on 07/30/2011 9:43:09 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (I can't think of anything clever, so I'll just say, "Obama sucks.")
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To: Elendur

Roger L Simon is a reformed lib. he knows how they think.

right now, ALL Obama’s supporters, are united, against GOP budget cuts.
...but, if OBAMA is forced to actually make a cut, then all his supporters, turn on him and each other, to avoid the knife!

Obama spokesman Carny, ADMITTED this recently.

the GOP has sent things in good faith. Obama rejected them.
so now, do NOTHING, and force OBAMA to make his OWN support crumble.

http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/
The Man Without A Plan
July 27th, 2011 - 9:29 pm

President Obama’s been taking a lot of flak lately for not having a plan. First it was about Libya, but now — even more importantly because, as we know, all politics is local (until it’s not) — about the budget.

The latest White House porte-parole Jay Carney has consequently been taking all kinds of in-coming himself about “where’s the President’s budget plan,” “why doesn’t he have a plan,” etc.

Well, the reason for the latter is simple: because he can’t. The minute the president evinces a budget plan, the game is up. No liberal budget will stand up to scrutiny. There is no money left for deficit spending in our aging society. The welfare state is kaput. It’s gone — probably for generations to come.


13 posted on 07/30/2011 9:47:11 AM PDT by Elendur (It is incumbent on every generation to pay its own debts as it goes. - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: supremedoctrine
Reid’s presentation is designed to have you NOT pay attention to the ‘substance’ but only the ‘style’:

Politics: Hollywood for the ugly.

14 posted on 07/30/2011 9:50:42 AM PDT by Libloather (The epitome of civility.)
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To: Windy City Conservative
Clearly Mr. Erickson doesn't understand liberals.Neither choice would be picked

Reid's answer would be "Stop Filibustering"

Besides Obama would crash and burn the country rather than sign off on repealing Obamacare.

Reid doesn't have the votes to override a veto

15 posted on 07/30/2011 9:52:42 AM PDT by Popman (Obama. First Marxist to turn a five year Marxist plan into a 4 year administration.)
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To: Windy City Conservative

Why settle for one or the other? I’d load up EVERY bill with defunding DeathCare to BBA to drilling in ANWR to extending the Bush tax cuts amendments.

Take a page from the RATs playbook.


16 posted on 07/30/2011 11:11:42 AM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners)
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To: Windy City Conservative

I use my own post as a comment... we must understand a Custer like last stand is NOT good policy (IMHO):

Whatever Sen. Harry Reid does in the Senate debt bill... with tax increases whatever, pass it!!! With one important House change...The balanced budget Constitutional amendment! Also, the tax increases shall NOT take effect before Jan 1, 2013 (to give time for small business to adjust), and the tax hikes and debt ceiling increase SHALL not be implemented at all, until the balanced budget amendment is passed and sent to the states for ratification. This will require some brass’uns on the GOP’s part, but it would box the Democrats into a corner, if they reject their own bill with a “tiny” amendment… You can say “they got everything they asked for but not what they really want (more endless BIG government!)”.

Later after the “crisis” has passed… add: “when the GOP wins in 2012, the first act of the new Republican House and Senate will be to reverse any tax increases in the Reid/Obama ‘compromise’ bill retroactively” (they never take effect)! You win both ways IMHO! You show Americans it’s Obama and the Democrats who are inflexible and you campaign against the very tax increases forced on you by Obama/Reid as well as the abject failure of Obama’s socialist vision! Know your battle is pure PR, and your enemy (B.O.) is weak!


17 posted on 07/30/2011 11:12:36 AM PDT by FiddlePig (truth is hard... lies are easy - http://redneckoblogger.blogspot.com)
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To: Windy City Conservative
I'm all for the news conference that says, “We have sent 2 bills to the Senate representative of our nationwide landslide in the last election and in anticipation of our coming landslide in the next election. November 2010 got us away from having to sit in the back of the bus and November 2012 will not only let us drive the bus out of the ditch next to the cliff but we will own the bus and have plans to turbocharge the engine and go back to driving without dragging the brakes.”

Other than that DO NOTHING. Make the POS POTUS come up with a plan. He is suppose to be the Harvard educated genius, let's see it in action. You will of course want to announce any plan having any semblance of a penny of revenue increase will be as the leader of the Senate says, so eloquently, “DOA.”

18 posted on 07/30/2011 11:34:13 AM PDT by cashless (Unlike Obama and his supporters, I'd rather be a TEA BAGGER than a TEA BAGGEE.)
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