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Mandated Mischief: Obama’s 54.5 MPG Standard
Pajamas Media ^ | 7/28/2011 | Marlo Lewis

Posted on 07/30/2011 6:10:10 AM PDT by IbJensen

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To: BobL

Looks like “Willie Green” just can’t catch a break!


21 posted on 07/30/2011 7:12:38 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (Always Remember You're Unique.......(Just Like everyone Else.))
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To: not2worry
Who is going to be able to buy these new cars? The USA will be looking like postcards from Cuba soon

What makes you think that isn't another salient part of "the big plan"?

22 posted on 07/30/2011 7:23:13 AM PDT by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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To: IbJensen

It gives the village idiot something to convince his deluded followers that we don’t need to drill here now. After all we’re looking at 50+ mpg for automobiles and pickup trucks.

If the EPA was corraled and we were allowed to import more of the diesels from Europe we could get close to 50 mpg now.


23 posted on 07/30/2011 7:41:32 AM PDT by meatloaf
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To: IbJensen

what arrogance.

who can predict what technologies and life will be like that far in the future?


24 posted on 07/30/2011 8:00:21 AM PDT by ken21 (dem + rino progressives -- destroying america for 150 years.)
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To: Cannoneer

A Modest Proposal - short and oh, so sweet - Get rid of all socialists - Problem Solved!


25 posted on 07/30/2011 8:01:06 AM PDT by I am Richard Brandon
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To: Cannoneer
That's an interesting thought. I disagree with you mainly because your timing is off . . . the U.S. railroad industry was already in decline by the late 1950s. This was due mainly to a combination of excessive government regulation and poor market conditions for railroads related to population dispersion in the post-WW2 era (it was simply impossible for the railroad industry to serve an increasingly suburban population in a practical way).

The U.S. railroad industry was saved through deregulation in the early 1980s, and what you see now is an industry that is far more cost-efficient than ever before -- carrying more freight on a consolidated system where unprofitable lines have been abandoned or sold.

26 posted on 07/30/2011 8:02:54 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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To: CharlyFord

It’s like the minimum wage. Go ahead and raise it to $50/hr. Leftists that run the nation and economy know what they’re doing, but hope you won’t notice with the forest fire raging.


27 posted on 07/30/2011 8:03:39 AM PDT by IbJensen (An armed man is a citizen. An unarmed man is a subject.)
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To: BobL
I think one of the problems Obama and the Democrats have with America is that white families are still having way too many kids. But if you force them to drive 2-seaters, that problem goes away.

Don't worry, gay marriage will destroy what little is left of the nuclear family.

28 posted on 07/30/2011 8:04:59 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi
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To: IbJensen

They more or less have to sign whatever President Zippy demands. But they know by 2025 it won’t matter what they signed in 2011.

In 2025 either Zippy will be gone or the US will be gone.

And no matter what Zippy demands, what can actually be produced will be still be dictated by the immutable natural laws of mechanics, physics and thermodynamics, not by Zippy’s socialist night dreams.


29 posted on 07/30/2011 8:09:02 AM PDT by Iron Munro (The more effeminate & debauched the people, the more they are fitted for a tyrannical government.)
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To: IbJensen

Good lesson!

Free trade does not move manufacturing overseas....regulations move manufacturing overseas.

Right now, it is feasible to build cars in the US and sell them for a profit.....despite unions.

Now that the gov’t is requiring increased technology to achieve higher fuel economy, companies will have trouble selling as many cars because they will cost more. Consumers will keep their old cars longer.

So what will happen?

All those joint auto ventures in China will be used to ship cars back to the US!

Yes, this is how it works.....eat away at profits or make domestic companies sell fewer vehicles and they will look to recover those profits in other ways. Since they cannot get the UAW to lower wages or introduce more automation, they will turn to other countries.


30 posted on 07/30/2011 8:10:31 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi
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To: IbJensen

Obama and his band of faggy apparatchiks never worked in a real job making things. (I have) They have no idea what it takes to do this and run this kind of business. Nuke the EPA. Fire every last blood sucking leech.

Those who can’t do, govern. Or at least seek to. These useless eaters seek to rule the producers of America. They oppress our oil, gas and energy producers. They oppress our farmers in California by denying irrigation water. They drive our manufacturing overseas via OSHA and EPA regulations

Rick Perry is conservative enough to reverse all this. I don’t need an unelectable super-conservative. Just one who will drive Bammy Boy and Moochelle out of the White House. Who will boot commissar Lisa Jackson out of the EPA


31 posted on 07/30/2011 8:27:39 AM PDT by dennisw (NZT -- works better if you're already smart)
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To: IbJensen
yeah... but it's hard to get two people into it let alone a family of four

32 posted on 07/30/2011 8:37:23 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: IbJensen


33 posted on 07/30/2011 8:38:07 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: hoosierham
If you simply make nothing but tiny two-seaters like the former Geo 3-cylinder hatchback

I had a geo metro with a 5-speed stick shift, and never did reach 50 mpg....and I could hardly pull the hills in W.Virginia.
34 posted on 07/30/2011 8:55:23 AM PDT by stylin19a
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To: Cannoneer

BTW what existing or conceivable vehicle that gets 54.5 MPG would anyone buy for more than short commutes? Oh that’s right we need to be herded into urban areas so we can utilized the wonderful mass transit systems that exist in say; Orlando, Tampa, Toledo?


Meet the VW Jetta
http://www.popularmechanics.com/cars/reviews/diesel/4235586

Fords doing it with the festiva 60+ MPG. But YOU can’t have one (and neither can I)
http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/08_37/b4099060491065.htm


35 posted on 07/30/2011 8:59:18 AM PDT by cableguymn
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To: Cannoneer

Here’s how a vehicle could probably achieve that MPG standard.

Rip out the airbags or at least make them miraculously light, rip out the power windows, make the air conditioning nearly microscopic, give them all ceramic, cro-moly, carbon fiber, titanium or magnesium alloy manual gearboxes and make the thing as sleek as a bullet and about the size of an old Geo Metro (Which I currently drive).

I personally like high MPG vehicles because I’m on a fixed income and they pay for themselves in convenience and job searches. I also think giving the average suburban or rural American driver a big vehicle with an automatic transmission is like giving a kid matches and dynamite because driving is often a necessity in those areas rather than a convenience like it is in the city and people tend to feel as though it’s their right to drive like an inconsiderate jerk rather than figuring out that the roads are for the public to use.

A lot of urban people share my opinion about rural and suburban drivers and I think Obama’s pandering to his urban base. In short, he’s so far left that he’d push his agenda over practicality. A Geo-Sized vehicle cannot haul a motorcycle, a bed or hell, even a snowboard or a BMX. I’ve literally had trouble hauling my BMX to the bike shop in my Geo. So in short, people who enjoy outdoor activities would either have to rent a truck or put it on the train to one of the pre-planned nature reservations our government has wonderfully provided for us..

Yeah, I’m about to turn 30 years old and I still BMX :D


36 posted on 07/30/2011 9:01:41 AM PDT by NorthStarStateConservative (In 2008, the USA became the UNN: The United States of Nauru)
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To: meatloaf
If the EPA was corraled and we were allowed to import more of the diesels from Europe we could get close to 50 mpg now.

Yep, pretty much. I'd prefer to see those engines built here,though, rather than imported from VW or PSA Peugeot Citroën.

37 posted on 07/30/2011 9:58:20 AM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: stylin19a
I never said the cars would be good cars that did what people needed!Nor is the EPA rating likely to be achieved in real driving.

The whole idea of government setting performance without regard to the laws of physics is a major problem.

That is why we have toilets that don't flush,paper too thin to keep your fingers clean, and lights too dim to see the first two didn't wwork!

38 posted on 07/30/2011 11:53:33 AM PDT by hoosierham (Waddaya mean Freedom isn't free ?;will you take a credit card?)
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To: cableguymn
Maybe when Obama is out of office someone can change the mandate to 54.5 kilometers per gallon.

I was looking at a recent issue of Consumer Reports and they weren't too pleased with the latest VW Jettas--thought they had been changed for the worse (cheaper materials).

39 posted on 07/30/2011 6:55:17 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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