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It Amazes and Baffles Me (Cut-Cap-Balance had more support in Senate and House than Boehner's Plan)
Redstate ^ | 7/29/2011 | Erick Erickson

Posted on 07/29/2011 6:09:34 PM PDT by teg_76

A week ago, the United States House of Representatives sent a bipartisan measure to the United States Senate where it fell five votes short of a majority.

Today, John Boehner sent over legislation that couldn’t even get all the Republicans to support it, didn’t get any Democrats to support it, and will get less support in the Senate than last week’s plan.

And now the Democrats have a talking point they didn’t have with last week’s plan — that this plan is not bipartisan and also that Boehner had to appease the far right, all of which was lined up behind last weeks plan in even greater numbers.

(Excerpt) Read more at redstate.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2012budget; boehner; debtceiling; obama; palin; reid
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Boner really is a disaster.
1 posted on 07/29/2011 6:09:38 PM PDT by teg_76
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The upside: he won’t be speaker in 2013. The downside: 17 more months of suffering his ineptitude.


2 posted on 07/29/2011 6:14:30 PM PDT by floozy22 (Sarah Palin/2012: For Such A Time As This)
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To: teg_76

I love the advert at Red State. “Should Christie Run?” Doesn’t that question answer itself? He’d have a heart attack just thinking about it.


3 posted on 07/29/2011 6:15:32 PM PDT by TwoSwords (The Lord is a man of war, Exodus 15:3)
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You have zero chance of passing something, when boner and the rest of the leadership are busy negotiating their own secret deal, which is still going on. The house needs to be returned to its legal foundation and let the committees write bills. Stop this crap of the speaker claiming it is his empire and he rules the place.


4 posted on 07/29/2011 6:15:58 PM PDT by org.whodat (What does the Republican party stand for////??? absolutely nothing.)
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To: teg_76

Awful! just awful. On another note, anyone watching the Hobbit Hater Laura Ingraham step in for BOR? so mad


5 posted on 07/29/2011 6:16:12 PM PDT by GoCards (I am a Hobbit)
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Well, sure, in a rational world a bill supported by 2/3rd’s of the public, large support in the House that fails only by a handful of votes in the Senate would be the natural bill to push. After all push comes to shove the Senators against stand for re-election and they and Obama need it more. If we were going to play a game of Chicken we had the better hand but noooooo....The establishment GOP didn’t really want to cut spending. So now look where we are. And they have the nerve to say WE brought them to this point? Well yes in a way we did. We made it clear we actually aren’t their puppets and but no we did not put them in this lose/lose political situation. They put themselves there just as they brought us to this crusging debt. Take responsibility for your actions!


6 posted on 07/29/2011 6:21:52 PM PDT by Soul Seeker ( I was there when we had the numbers, but didnÂ’t have the principles.---Jim DeMint)
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To: teg_76

What’s baffling about serving the DC cocktail circuit and the government elite? Surely you don’t believe DC exists to serve the American People?


7 posted on 07/29/2011 6:27:26 PM PDT by YHAOS (you betcha!)
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The Stupid Party getting it done, the only way they know how...


8 posted on 07/29/2011 6:30:06 PM PDT by Qbert ("The best defense against usurpatory government is an assertive citizenry" - William F. Buckley, Jr.)
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If Erick Erickson is amazed and baffled, then this must really be his first rodeo. Get this, boy--it's all about money and politics, not finance and governance. The Gubmint only governs as a last ditch necessity.
9 posted on 07/29/2011 6:41:29 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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The answer is that today's bill lost some conservative support in both houses.

CC&B doesn't have a chance of passage, particularly the BBA component, which requires 67 Senate votes. Democrats will never support a BBA with Cap and no tax increase components, since it means that the BBA would only ever reduce spending. With a 67 vote Senate threshold, CC&B would therefore never pass the Senate, even after 2012.

The best solution is a simple BBA and then fight the spending cuts versus tax raise war. Most Republicans, based on prior experience, believe that war will always be lost to the spenders. The country's mood has shifted, however, and with the right leadership, the war on spending can be won.

10 posted on 07/29/2011 6:42:56 PM PDT by Praxeologue
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11 posted on 07/29/2011 6:48:19 PM PDT by Colonial Warrior (Never approach a bull from the front, a horse from the rear, or a fool from any direction.)
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The Republican presidential candidates might as well be standing around with a’crash and burn’ attitude on this whole debate - which really isn’t a position at all, of course...

As of tonight, Huntsman seems to be the only one that is taking a lead and speaking out in support of finding real solutions to the debt ceiling issue.

http://situationroom.blogs.cnn.com/2011/07/29/blitzers-blog-huntsman-criticizes-gop-rivals-on-debt-ceiling-debate/


12 posted on 07/29/2011 6:48:30 PM PDT by erlayman
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Stopped giving to the RNC years ago and never looked back. I throw some money at DeMint’s PAC, but know it is a waste. What will a handful of senators do?


13 posted on 07/29/2011 6:49:54 PM PDT by MattinNJ (Perry/Palin vs. Obama/Biden.)
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To: erlayman

Huh?
All huntsman did tonight was give kissy face to obama.
The only responsible position is to NOT raise the debt ceiling and instead cut spending by 40%


14 posted on 07/29/2011 7:03:17 PM PDT by wilco200 (11/4/08 - The Day America Jumped the Shark)
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To: teg_76

Bonehead can be voted out anytime! Enough of this RINO Crybaby.


15 posted on 07/29/2011 7:17:16 PM PDT by Cheetahcat ( November 4 2008 ,A date that will live in Infamy.)
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Maybe somebody can elucidate and clarify for me.

If the Senate is going to gut whatever the House passes and turn it into a Reid/McConnell bill, why was there a need to pass the latest Boehner bill which passed today?

Why couldn’t Reid use the Cut Cap and Balance Plan (which he tabled) , gut it for their purposes and send that back to the House?

Why did we go through all the agony of passing another bill knowing it was going to be tabled as well?

It’s all Kabuki. This latest bill will be totally liberaled up so that Pelosi’s party could even vote for it when it comes back to the House, and our guys will be left looking like saps because their vote won’t even be needed to pass it. The rinos will help Pelosi push it across.

The only thing accomplished by this charade is that the media and dems got another chance to trash and divide the Tea Party guys in Congress.

I would have just told Harry that we sent them the CCB legislation and let him deal with it. Don’t know why we had to do a re-do.


16 posted on 07/29/2011 7:21:34 PM PDT by A'elian' nation (Political correctness does not legislate tolerance; it only organizes hatred. Jacques Barzun)
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To: org.whodat

Exactly right. Boehners major error here was the ongoing private meetings with the inept leaders of the other party, and presenting his own bill to get rushed through. This is exaclty what we voted against last year. I am pleased with some aspects of boehners performance this past week or two, but on this front he failed and got manipulated.


17 posted on 07/29/2011 7:23:16 PM PDT by ilgipper (political rhetoric is no substitute for competence (Thomas Sowell))
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To: wilco200

It proves he is not living in an alternative reality. And in the absence of a magic wand...the Boehner plan is less than perfect but at least lays out the elements of good steps in the right direction, which is more than we have had for a decade of mismanagement.


18 posted on 07/29/2011 7:30:44 PM PDT by erlayman
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America will never recover from the last of this King Obama’s communists spending.
19 posted on 07/29/2011 7:33:55 PM PDT by Logical me
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To: erlayman

Has the Huntsman candidacy been tabled yet?


20 posted on 07/29/2011 7:35:01 PM PDT by wilco200 (11/4/08 - The Day America Jumped the Shark)
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