So what happens if the original doesn’t exist?
I wish this would go somewhere. But I fear it won’t.
Fascinating.
As I will forget about it by Aug 8th, me hopes someone will keep us abreast.
Wonder what will happen when it is refused...by what authority is the subpoena?
fyi
Taitz finally found an honest judge in the Federal court system. There may be others but Lamberth is as straight-arrow as they come. And the subpoena looks legit.
They will be turned away and not allowed to view squat.
I don’t care if the subpoena came from SCOTUS itself...
Obama can simply claim executive privilege.
Obama has made it clear that even the constitution is irrelevant, and has already ignored federal court rulings and orders.... but nobody does anything about it.
“and if the document we see
“IF”.... the key word as I doubt they will see any documents being in the possession of the State.
Why did they announce they will accompany Orly? HDOH will now find a reason to waste their travel expenses and say ha ha.
Never tell the enemy your plans.
A MUCH newsier and more relate-worthy endeavor is the pursuit of Obama's full, complete, and unexpurgated collegiate transcripts.
We must insist that all GOP candidates voluntarily show their transcripts; and,
...that THEY demand the same of Mister Obama (who it would seem is hiding something pretty big.)
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1) Since when did "African" become a "race?" In the time that the BC was issued we had the Caucasian race, the Indian race, the Oriental race, the Negro race (which became called the Black race in the late '60's), the Jewish race, etc. The word Black, and previously Negroid, were the common terms used then. There was no PC issue about calling people of brown or black skin " Africans" (as in African Americans) until much later. Many of that color skin are from other locations anyway...islands, for example. So how can Obama's BC state "African" race when that term was not used when he was born. I would like to have it compaired with other Blacks born in Hawaii during the same year to see how their race is listed.
Besides "Africa" is a continent anyway, not a country and there are many people there of different races, including Caucasians, Orientals, etc. Stating "African" as a race on a BC would be like putting "American" as the race of a white person born in Kansas, USA. American might be a person's country, but Caucasion is the race. It appears to me that issue alone could prove that Obama's BC is a fraud.
)Then there is the issue that Kenya was not a country the year Obama was born, and Kenya is listed as his father's place of origin. Kenya did not become a country until 1963, two whole years after Obama's birth, and 27 years after his father's birth. How could Obama's father have been born in a country that did not yet exist? Up and until Kenya was formed in 1963, it was known as the "British East Africa Protectorate".
3)Regarding the hospital that Obama was born in. On the birth certificate released by the White House, the listed place of birth is "Kapi'olani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital". This cannot be, because the hospital(s) in question in 1961 were called "KauiKeolani Children's Hospital" and "Kapi'olani Maternity Home", respectively. The name did not change to Kapi'olani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital until 1978, when these two hospitals merged. How can this particular name of the hospital be on a birth certificate dated 1961 if this name had not yet been applied to it until 1978?
In case you haven’t seen this.
Is this a real subpoena signed off by the judge, or is it one of Orly’s “special” subpoenas?
I hate to say it but I believe Orly is making a huge mistake...why take these so called experts when what you need is a court certified Questioned Document Examiner who can properly examine the document age, inks, paper type everything and have the ability to qualify as an expert witness in court..otherwise it appears to me these two people don’t have the proper experience and credentials....whateverthey say will not be credible enough,,,,
ORLY get some help!!!
A lot of people are going to “disappear” over this. You can bet on it.
I haven’t read all the posts or the entire article, but what are the implications if by some miracle he IS proven to be ineligible for the office of President? Obviously, this would be a constitutional crisis of an unprecedented magnitude.
Since Biden was elected with him, as a package, would he be considered ineligible for the office? That would put Boehner in the WH.
Then, the question as to all the acts executed by Obama would need to be addressed. In a sane, rational country, this would be a no-brainer. But, I’m afraid that anarchy rules the day.
My prediction, HDOH will ignore it. They will tell Taitz they need the DA to check it out and a week later nothing will have happened.
Just my 2 cents.
A couple of facts:
1) Obama is not a party to this lawsuit and he has no attorneys acting in this case. This lawsuit is “Taitz v Astrue.” Michael J. Astrue is Commissioner of the Social Security Administration. He is a George W. Bush appointee to a six year term as Commissioner. The Social Security Administration is an independent agency of the federal government, meaning Astrue does not work for Obama and the SSA has its own attorneys.
2) This lawsuit is not about Obama’s birth certificate. It is a Freedom of Information Act suit aimed at the Social Security Administration attempting to force them to release information about Obama’s Social Security number.
3) Hawaii law does not permit release of birth certificates under subpoenas. The law states that a copy of a birth certificate can be released via a COURT ORDER. A subpoena is not a court order. It is highly likely that Hawaii will deny the subpoena request.
Only judges issue court orders. Ms. Taitz could go to Judge Lamberth and request that he issue a court order for a copy of Obama’s birth certificate.
“What is a court order?”
A court order is a legal document or proclamation in which a court orders a person to perform a specific act, prohibits him from performing an act, sets a court date, or legally establishes something. For example, a court order may require an individual to pay a specific amount of money to another party. A court order may also prohibit a person from doing something, such as walking across another party’s property. Some court orders are used to set a date specifying when parties involved in a case are expected to appear in court. Other court orders may establish the relationship between parties in a case.
In many cases, court orders are given in writing and signed by a judge. In some places, however, a judge’s signature isn’t enough; an order has to be notarized to make it official. There are even cases in which a court order is given orally in open court. In such a case, the order may be recorded in the court’s transcripts but not given to the parties in writing.
Depending on the type of case, a person may suffer penalties for failing to follow the instructions in a court order. For example, a person may lose a case by default if he fails to show up in court at the date and time specified in a court order. If a defendant fails to appear for his trial, he may be arrested and put in jail.
Hawaii law allows the release of a confidential birth record to: “a person whose right to inspect or obtain a copy of the record is established by an order of a court of competent jurisdiction.”
http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrs2006/Vol06_Ch0321-0344/HRS0338/HRS_0338-0018.HTM