[Conservativegreatgrandma]

It would be wonderful if the solution to this problem were as easy as Rs standing their ground. We have very good people in DC all trying their best to fix this but it is not so clear exactly what is the right thing to do.

We're not there and we don't have access to all the facts and besides we don't have to deal with these Dumbocrats.

The fact is RATS control the Senate and the presidency. Our people are not miracle workers.

[Safrguns]

>>> The fact is RATS control the Senate and the presidency. Our people are not miracle workers.

The fact is that the republicans already have their balanced budget in the form of a debt ceiling.

Instead of trying to throw it away like a hot potato, they should be using it to unilaterally accomplish what we sent them there to do.

If the roles were reversed, what would the democrats do? (see Reid/Obama arguments in 2006)

[KittenClaws]

The fact is RATS control the Senate and the presidency. Our people are not miracle workers.

True enough, which is all the more reason to stand firm and no reason to be complicit.