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1 posted on 07/28/2011 2:35:26 PM PDT by Evil Slayer
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To: Evil Slayer

In the end, they will all have to stand before us and the world with a national debt “ceiling” (”suggestion” actually) and figure out how much longer they can play shell games with a national debt of nearly $17 Trillion dollars

I for one am going Galt to the best of my ability

My apologies and sincere regrets to those of my fellow working citizens who depend on consumerism for their livelihood


2 posted on 07/28/2011 2:40:49 PM PDT by silverleaf (All that is necessary for evil to succeed, is that good men do nothing)
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The spin is the thing. Sooner or later some bill will pass. The bill will not be to either sides liking because neither side has decisive power.

Whatever happens spin like a dreidle that your side won and the bad evil other side lost.

3 posted on 07/28/2011 2:42:34 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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Boehner is a big government RINO. I believe this is all political theater and he will fold at the last minute.


4 posted on 07/28/2011 2:42:51 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Evil Slayer

We had a really good debate over this issue a little earlier this afternoon and discussed how it could (or might not) happen. Although we did not have the actual Rush transcript which is in this thread, we had some good conversation based on what was said on his show today concerning this issue.

See that thread here: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2755222/posts


9 posted on 07/28/2011 2:57:10 PM PDT by casinva (We are being held hostage by Democrat US Senators who block votes just like the ones in Wisconsin)
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To: Evil Slayer

Do a bill that gets us to next August.

Get rid of the commission idea.

Make the election about Cut Cap & Balance vs Tax & Spend.


11 posted on 07/28/2011 2:59:35 PM PDT by Meet the New Boss (14th Amendment ObamaBonds: the anti-Liberty Bonds)
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We’re allowing our elected ‘leaders’ in Washington to run our country into bankruptcy. No matter what bill finally becomes law, our national debt will grow - legally - and the spending won’t stop, just be deferred a tiny bit or hidden. America will still owe trillions that can never be repaid. The Republicans standing strong are to be praised and rewarded for their principled stand while ‘old Washington’ hands’ such as John Boehner are busy selling us out to the Democrats so they can say they ‘saved’ America from ‘default’ and, they hope, get a pat on the back from Paul Krugman or some other leftist. That won’t happen, ever, but the RINOs won’t admit it and keep trying to appease the left while selling out TEA party members principles that gave the majority in the House to Republicans and helped make John Boehner, Speaker. That they even got to Allen West is an indication of how difficult it will be to effect real change in Washington. It may not even be possible, but we have to try in 2012. Vote out the RINOs (Boehner, et al.) and vote in TEA party conservatives that will work with President Palin to change Washington back to something that at least approximates constitutional principles.


12 posted on 07/28/2011 3:05:15 PM PDT by Jim Scott ( "Game On!" - Sarah Palin)
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I think Rush is right that the Senate will mess with the bill and send it back to the Republicans which will then have to kill it.

The thing I don't get though is what is the alternative? If the house sits on their hands and sends nothing to the Senate, the House will clearly be at fault.

The GOP has to be willing to let the bill die if the senate changes the bill. And at some point the GOP has to be willing to communicate, that they won't accept a lot of changes in the bill.

I don't think the house needs to be afraid of the ball being hit back to their court. But they just need to be prepared to hit it back and communicate why they are hitting it back.

15 posted on 07/28/2011 3:12:03 PM PDT by DannyTN
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I guess I see it simpler than Rush. If Boehner and the House pubbies will just fold at the end of the day, it really doesn't matter what's in the bill the House sends over. They just have to grow a spine.
19 posted on 07/28/2011 3:23:51 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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“All power tends to corrupt; absolute power corrupts absolutely.”, Lord Acton
29 posted on 07/28/2011 6:34:06 PM PDT by McGruff (I'm with the Tea Party, not the Republican Party)
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