Posted on 07/28/2011 10:55:40 AM PDT by CharlyFord
Fifty-three Democratic senators have signed a letter to House Speaker John A. Boehner saying they intend to vote against his plan for an increase in the debt ceiling, virtually assuring its defeat in the Senate even as the speaker lines up Republican votes to pass it in the House on Thursday.
Votes are not final until they are cast. But if the Democrats hold to their promise in the letter, Mr. Boehner’s plan for a six-month increase in borrowing authority will not make it to President Obama’s desk.
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We have 47 GOP senators and yes, they will play hardball. All voted for CCB and all will support Boehner.
Wait a day or so for the news to shift to the senate b4 we tell the American people what we think of Harry Reid and his plan.
What budget? There hasn't been a "budget" for almost 900 days. If you accept the current rate of expenditures as a de facto budget you have just legitimized the highest spending rate in the history of the republic! It makes more sense to me to fall back to the last "real" budget (pre-obama).
Regards,
GtG
THIS could/should be hung around the democrats neck LIKE A MILLSTONE...
The President has echoed this verbally several times..
A smart candidate would capitalize on this like “Ron Popiel”...
Elect Me as president just .. “Set it and forget it”..
I will go thru Washington D.C. like a vacuum cleaner..
I will clean up the place like heroic bowel irrigation..
Just give me a House and Senate to match...
I’ll flush the deficit, make the illegal aliens long for the Mexico, and/or use them to build “the WALL”, investigate the federal reserve, AND start burning all those fiat 20’s and 100’s Obama printed.. increasing the value of the dollar..
SO What? The House should do their job in the House then send it to the Senate. If the fools don’t pass it, it’s on them.
I would also make sure that a copy of that letter with all of those signatures get posted everywhere so the public and the entire world can see who those idiots are.
Boehner needs to stop running around like a “chicken with it’s head cut off” trying to please the liberals. Do your job and keep pushing it. Harry Reid is nothing. Stop letting him scare you like he’s the boogeyman. Good grief!
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Voting against it before they’ve even seen it. Who’s obstructionist now?
The current rate of spending may not have been put down on paper or have signed approvals by all parties but, like it or not, it is indeed the de facto budget.
de fac·to:adjective
1.Denoting someone or something that is such in fact
ie: - a de facto one-party systemadverb
1.In fact, whether by right or not
ie:- the island has been de facto divided into two countries
Falling back to a previous budget would be even better, but either benchmark is preferable to what seems to be coming down. The size of the reduction currently being discussed is so pitifully small it hardly seems to be worth all the effort.
To settle for such a small percentage in reduced spending is a major capitulation that hands Obama a win and will just inflate his bloated ego even more.
Despite the rubbish being floated in news reports, both the Republican and Democrat leadership know the rules they work under. They both know that revenue bills must originate in the House and the only avenue for Reid to have his plan considered is to take up a House passed bill and amend it. If he attempts to do so, he must get a two thirds majority which is very unlikely. If he allows a House passed bill to be taken up for consideration, he runs the real risk of not only failing to get his amendments passed, but having enough defections in his ranks to allow the unamended bill to be passed.
Reid has a very weak hand but he is good at bluffing and, unfortunately, republicans have a tendency to turn on their leadership when they don’t get everything the want. These are interesting times.
You speak with much wisdom my friend.....a rare event here on FR!
“We have 47 GOP senators”
You have more faith in there also being 47 spines than I do. We’ve been sold down the river by the ‘Super’ Rinos before.
all 47 remained firm with voting for (not to table) CCB.
You are underestimating McConnell.
I beg to differ with you on that point. Since a "budget" is a plan for future activities, simply writing down what you did does not meet the criteria of "planning for future activities". It is rather the antithesis of a budget in that it only records past activities. Perhaps we can agree to call it the "anti-budget"?
The only merit to be found in doing the budget "expos facto" is that you will most assuredly hit all of your targets, that being the inevitable result of drawing the bull's eye around the point the arrow struck!
Regards,
GtG
“You are underestimating McConnell.”
“Six Republicans joined Democrats to table the Boehner resolution were Sens. Jim DeMint (S.C.), Lindsey Graham (S.C.), Orrin Hatch (Utah), Mike Lee (Utah), Rand Paul (Ky.), and David Vitter (La.).”
Strange, not even the usual bunch of rino idiots!
I still remain very fearful of the Senate. Seems like we may actually have a sufficient quantity of spines in the House.
Calm down. McConnell released these 6 senators to vote NO on Boehner because it was not conservative enough for these senators.
Please see today’s news - 43 or the 47 GOP senators are holding firm w McConnell and will not vote for cloture on the Reid bill until Reid and Obama relent to GOP concessions.
What is delicious right now is that McConnell is running out the clock so the RATS cannot renege on a deal AND he is calling 0bama to the table and cutting REid out - just to piss Reid, schumer and durbin off.
Boehner and McConnell are coordinating beautifully.
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