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To: LachlanMinnesota
Are they allowed to carry a loaded magazine elsewhere on their body?

In Illinois you can technically open carry an unloaded handgun while having the ammunition separate from the magazine and those items elsewhere on your person.

The major problem being that if you had to use the gun, and once you loaded it, you would be breaking the law (a major felony). Then after you broke that law and if you used the gun there isn't a court in Illinois that would find for your defense(you would be charged with homicide).

So while open-carrying proves a certain point, for personal safety and well-being it's really really stupid.

Do I agree with how the law works? NO. Do I have to enforce it? YES.
21 posted on 07/28/2011 6:37:17 AM PDT by brent13a (You're a Great American! NO you're a Great American! NO NO NO YOU'RE a Great American! Nooo.....WTF?)
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To: brent13a

Is it the same in California, does anyone know?

This kind of law is so obviously flying in the face of the second amendment, why has it not been challenged? Or has it?


32 posted on 07/28/2011 6:48:57 AM PDT by LachlanMinnesota (Which are you? A producer, a looter, or a moocher of wealth?)
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To: brent13a
-- The major problem being that if you had to use the gun, and once you loaded it, you would be breaking the law (a major felony). Then after you broke that law and if you used the gun there isn't a court in Illinois that would find for your defense(you would be charged with homicide). ... Do I agree with how the law works? NO. --

I recommend you learn how the law of self-defense really works.

-- Do I have to enforce it? YES. --

Actually, you, and the courts, and the prosecutor, all of youhave this widget called "discretion." I'm sure you use it.

-- while open-carrying proves a certain point, for personal safety and well-being it's really really stupid. --

Do you open carry?

41 posted on 07/28/2011 7:01:24 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: brent13a

So you are knowingly and willingly enforcing a law you believe is un-Constitutional? Don’t think much of your oath, do you.


54 posted on 07/28/2011 7:24:35 AM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: brent13a
Do I agree with how the law works? NO. Do I have to enforce it? YES

Thank you for so concisely articulating my primary grievence with practitioners of the law industry. So long as the citizen is ignorant of what is and is not within the officer's discretion, they stay happy...but as soon as a citizen challenges that discretion, rightly or wrongly, the officer invariably escalates it into a dick beating contest.

I believe this kind of compartmentalizing mentality fosters the exact kind of tunnel vision demomstrated by two Polish police officers who cried like babies when they were held to account for murdering Father Jerzy Popieluszk just before the fall of the Jaruzelski regime.

56 posted on 07/28/2011 7:25:56 AM PDT by papertyger
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To: brent13a
Do I agree with how the law works? NO. Do I have to enforce it? YES.

I understand, but there is 'enforcement', and then there is ENFORCEMENT.

I trust, if you don't agree with a law, yours would be the 'enforcement'. I also trust that when choosing between wanton oppression, and backing the people, you will choose the people.

72 posted on 07/28/2011 7:59:09 AM PDT by Lazamataz (If you pet a tiny goose, you will feel a little down.)
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