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To: Scotsman will be Free

IMHO the gun holder should have been cordial enough to offer his name. I thought it was the law to at least verbally give your name when asked by an officer. This guy was offered much more respect than he was go ing the officer.


128 posted on 07/28/2011 10:21:59 AM PDT by cornfedcowboy (Trust in God, but empty the clip.)
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To: cornfedcowboy

How do you think the officer would feel it ht ecitizen said let me check you weapon for my safety.


132 posted on 07/28/2011 10:32:02 AM PDT by Ratman83
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To: cornfedcowboy
-- I thought it was the law to at least verbally give your name when asked by an officer. --

I don't think it is. Too close to "papers please." But, never give a false answer, and if the officer has an articulable suspicion, he/she has the legal power to detain you.

If you are engaging in privilege, such as driving, then you are obliged to prove the state has granted you the privilege, and this inevitably involves divulging your identity.

If you've done nothing to arouse suspicion, and the officer cannot articulate what he/she suspects you of, then you have no obligation to give any information, and the officer has no legal power to obtain it.

I think both parties in the transaction noted in the OP did okay. Funny (not "haha" funny) that the officer did not know how to open a S&W semiauto sidearm. But Jeremy's refusal to give more than first name was not used as an excuse to escalate the terms of contact.

138 posted on 07/28/2011 10:43:38 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: cornfedcowboy

The cops need more than curiosity to get your name and dob. Once the weapon was checked and found to be empty, the cop had no legal authority to demand a name, etc. There is nothing that prevents the cops from asking, but like this officer did, if you get a negative response you just call it good and walk away.


140 posted on 07/28/2011 10:51:45 AM PDT by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: cornfedcowboy

he didn’t do anything wrong... he doesn’t have to identify himself to anyone... this is america.


150 posted on 07/28/2011 12:31:59 PM PDT by teeman8r (armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world.)
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