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Great police response to 'open carry' activist
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| July 25, 2011
| Doug Wyllie
Posted on 07/28/2011 5:54:16 AM PDT by brent13a
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To: ZX12R
I don't either
Aaah, I see. That makes total sense.
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posted on
07/28/2011 8:14:23 AM PDT
by
brent13a
(You're a Great American! NO you're a Great American! NO NO NO YOU'RE a Great American! Nooo.....WTF?)
LOL. Officer Lyons didn't know how to open the action on the Smith and Wesson.
One thing that cut in favor of "Jeremy" was that both he and Officer Lyons are Marines.
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posted on
07/28/2011 8:15:29 AM PDT
by
Cboldt
To: Hot Tabasco
semantics... he asked under the authority of a badge and took the gun out of the holster himself...
wise up. toady.
t
83
posted on
07/28/2011 8:15:45 AM PDT
by
teeman8r
(armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world.)
To: KEVLAR
I would prefer constitutional carry in all states. The only caveat being that if you're carrying you have to let the police officer know immediately.
A lot of "patriots" think that caveat is unconstitutional as well and I'm fine with not having that stipulation as long as people who carry concealed are fine with me reacting how I must when you don't tell me you're carrying. This isn't 1795, there are a lot of police officers who die from people illegally carrying firearms and I've seen a lot of the videos of them dying from people pulling out guns etc.
Apparently a lot of "Patriots" don't want any aspect of safety for the police.
84
posted on
07/28/2011 8:20:22 AM PDT
by
brent13a
(You're a Great American! NO you're a Great American! NO NO NO YOU'RE a Great American! Nooo.....WTF?)
To: brent13a
Aaah, I see. That makes total sense.
Here's what makes sense to me: You and those of your ilk can stay completely away from me. I have absolutely no use for you whatsoever, because I could deal with any situation better than you. I would probably just disarm you and injure you anyway.
85
posted on
07/28/2011 8:20:36 AM PDT
by
ZX12R
(FUBO GTFO 2012 !)
To: Teacher317; wagglebee; brent13a
Exactly. Exercise the “rights that are available”. Keep moving the line bact towards full exercise of our 2nd Amendment rights.
This is also forcing the LE’s to become informed and educated as to our rights.
It may not currently serve a so-called “practical” purpose, but in the long run, it hopefully will once people accept it and change the law to permit full on (loaded) open carry.
86
posted on
07/28/2011 8:22:18 AM PDT
by
SZonian
(July 27, 2010. Life begins anew.)
To: brent13a
CCW isn't the same as fighting for independence from a monarchy. Really? Do you have any clue what Paul Revere's ride was about?
I don't agree with everything a 100%. So What? It's my job to enforce it.
I'm sure that a few of the guards at Dachau felt that way, too.
Do you know what the word "Kapo" means? Look it up.
87
posted on
07/28/2011 8:25:59 AM PDT
by
Lurker
(The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
To: Lurker
You're so right. All cops=Heil Hitler. Now excuse me while I finish building our police department's gas chambers and start rounding up all the schoolchildren for our Police Youth Indoctrination camp.
Spare me and your sanctimonious crap.
A lot of so-called "patriots" want the police to be the Nazi SS.
88
posted on
07/28/2011 8:32:20 AM PDT
by
brent13a
(You're a Great American! NO you're a Great American! NO NO NO YOU'RE a Great American! Nooo.....WTF?)
To: Beelzebubba
I’m not ashamed of anything my government employed son does. He risks his life every day.
He’s almost lost his life twice. Once by falling through a 3-story house all the way to the basement when he was short of air hunting for somebody’s grandma and her cat. They couldn’t find him. The second time he and his partner pulled up in an ambulance to a truck reported to have a driver passed out who ran off the road. When they approached the truck, the driver pulled his gun and put two bullets in his partner’s chest and one in my son’s leg. And 3 nights a week he rides Life Flight for a private company, and it’s a risk every time they take off from the pad and land among the poles and electric wires in the dark to save somebody.
SO NO, I’m not going to be ashamed if his badge gets him off a ticket for going 62 in a 55 mile zone on a road nobody else was driving on at the time.
So take your piety and stuff it!
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posted on
07/28/2011 8:32:49 AM PDT
by
RowdyFFC
To: brent13a
Welcome to the world of cop-hating FReepers. I’ve been dealing with it for years. Some can at least see a few feet in front of their faces, but many will simply call you a Nazi and be done with it. No amount of common sense can shake their perception that ALL cops are thugs.
90
posted on
07/28/2011 8:34:42 AM PDT
by
thefactor
(yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
To: thefactor
Hey, if the shoe fits, fellow toadie.
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posted on
07/28/2011 8:36:28 AM PDT
by
ZX12R
(FUBO GTFO 2012 !)
To: brent13a
Your attitude in this post probably best illustrates why some here have a problem with you and other police.
lot of "patriots" think that caveat is unconstitutional as well and I'm fine with not having that stipulation as long as people who carry concealed are fine with me reacting how I must when you don't tell me you're carrying. All police act the same to us whether we are armed or not, you think we are the enemy. By your reasoning all civilians should look at all police as the enemy. There are a lot of civilians who die at the hand of police. If the police had to live by the same rules as the citizen then you would understand what the real problem is.
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posted on
07/28/2011 8:37:50 AM PDT
by
Ratman83
To: RowdyFFC
SO NO, Im not going to be ashamed if his badge gets him off a ticket for going 62 in a 55 mile zone on a road nobody else was driving on at the time.
So you have the gall to say you're son has a job that might be more dangerous or riskier and therefore provides an inherently honorable service to society as compared to say a paper-pusher or a cashier who has sloffed their way through life?
How dare you assume such a thing!!!!!
/sarc
93
posted on
07/28/2011 8:40:01 AM PDT
by
brent13a
(You're a Great American! NO you're a Great American! NO NO NO YOU'RE a Great American! Nooo.....WTF?)
To: mountaineer1997
I disagree that this is a great police response. The citizen was walking with open carry and not threatening or violating any law. I agree it wasn't great. It could have been worse.
Here in AZ citizens are not denied our right to keep and bear arms. We have an increasing number of out-of-staters who are frightened by the sight of a firearm. There are some non-natives functioning as cops. All of these factors can contribute to a unnecessary difficulties when one is simply exercising his right.
Other posters in this trhead question why someone would carry an unloaded firearm. It can be loaded quickly enough. Of course it's better if it is loaded, but prunepickers must do the best they can, avoiding empirial entanglements while preserving what they have left of their right.
A right unexercised is soon lost.
To: brent13a
--
I'm fine with not having that [if you're carrying you have to let the police officer know immediately] stipulation as long as people who carry concealed are fine with me reacting how I must when you don't tell me you're carrying. --
I understand the sentiment when applied to a person you suspect, for whatever reason, is a thug. But if you approach every citizen with that "I gotta do what I gotta do" attitude of superiority, you are going to be making enemies, where you could be making friends and allies.
Your posts have the same effect, but you're anonymous here, and the only thing you risk is people posting derogatory remarks about your character or ignoring you.
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posted on
07/28/2011 8:42:29 AM PDT
by
Cboldt
To: ZX12R
Bla, bla, bla, Mr. Keyboard Warrior. You’d never spew this crap to a real cop/soldier’s face so I pay you no mind.
96
posted on
07/28/2011 8:43:07 AM PDT
by
thefactor
(yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
To: thefactor
Welcome to the world of cop-hating FReepers. Ive been dealing with it for years. Some can at least see a few feet in front of their faces, but many will simply call you a Nazi and be done with it. No amount of common sense can shake their perception that ALL cops are thugs.
Well, at least Freepers do have something in common with leftists, they both hate cops. Maybe there could be a special conference for Freepers and leftists so that they could all get together and talk about which side hates cops the most.
97
posted on
07/28/2011 8:44:01 AM PDT
by
brent13a
(You're a Great American! NO you're a Great American! NO NO NO YOU'RE a Great American! Nooo.....WTF?)
To: brent13a
Before I even got to the end...when I read it was in Oceanside..I thought to myself..I bet the cop is a US Marine.
To: brent13a
"There is a lot more that goes into an encounter with a person than just police driving around looking to violate people's rights. I know you don't want to hear that but it's true. If we don't follow through with an investigation then the it becomes our liability." I'm sorry, but police are seldom held liable for the "mistakes" they make, and it's only those instances that are so blatantly outrageous that they are sometimes held to acocunt for.
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posted on
07/28/2011 8:51:38 AM PDT
by
semaj
(Anybody who claims that violence never solved anything is a liar..., just ask the government.)
To: brent13a
Good grief. I suppose considering that it’s California, it could have gone a lot worse. And I have no doubt that a lot of Illinois cops would act the same way. Thank God I’ve long since moved to a free state where we don’t tolerate that sort of BS. If agencies in most states tried to use that pointless detention (which I believe is based on one very specific California law that’s being challenged in the courts) as training material for any purpose other than “here’s what NOT to do to citizens going about their business”, it’d lead to a lot of unnecessary lawsuits.
100
posted on
07/28/2011 8:52:23 AM PDT
by
Turbopilot
(iumop ap!sdn w,I 'aw dlaH)
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