[sickoflibs]

RE :”Mr. Obama recognizes these stakes, threatening yesterday to veto the Boehner plan in a tactical move to block any Democratic support. The White House is afraid that it will pass the House and then become the only debt-ceiling vehicle if Mr. Reid can't get 60 votes for his own proposal in the Senate. This would short-circuit Mr. Obama’s plan to blame the GOP for a U.S. credit downgrade, any market turmoil, a possible default, and the lousy economy too. *** Under the two-phase Boehner plan, Congress would authorize $1 trillion in new debt in return for $1.2 trillion in budget cuts over the next decade. Most of that will come from caps on domestic discretionary spending over 10 years—the Pentagon and homeland security are exempt—with automatic spending cuts if the caps are breached. While one Congress cannot bind another, the proposal would at least guarantee real reductions in fiscal years 2012 and 2013.
(redact) If conservatives defeat the Boehner plan, they'll not only undermine their House majority. They'll go far to re-electing Mr. Obama and making the entitlement state that much harder to reform.”

I dont know about Obama’s re-election given a debt limit train wreck, but how about Boehner goes to Pelosi this weekend offering a surrender for Democrat votes? , and then worst case maybe Pelosi comes back as Speaker in 2013?

While I am hesitant to support specific proposed plans that usually turn out to be dog-crap, House Republicans (including Boehner and tea party members ) need to understand that Democrats are playing this as a team, and playing it to win. And taking a stand just to take a stand and losing big will not look good in the history books.

[ZULU]

We are playing a dangerous game of chess with an opponent with no scruples. I hope we make the right moves here.

[ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas]

worst case maybe Pelosi comes back as Speaker in 2013?

It's hard for me to watch Star Trek Voyager when the Klingon with the Pelosi hair style comes on.

[SunkenCiv]

Thanks sickoflibs.

[Marine_Uncle]

The snake pit is rather full of really venomous snakes at this point.