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To: volunbeer

Corporate America is winning.... they already employ lawyers, accountants, and politicians to maintain compliance. The little guy who does it themselves does not stand a chance in today’s environment.


I am not sure , what is your definition of corporate America?

It appears to me that socialism is winning.


48 posted on 07/27/2011 4:35:21 AM PDT by ravenwolf (Just a bit of the long list of proofs)
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To: ravenwolf; volunbeer
Corporate America is winning.... they already employ lawyers, accountants, and politicians to maintain compliance. The little guy who does it themselves does not stand a chance in today’s environment.

I am not sure , what is your definition of corporate America?

It appears to me that socialism is winning.

Actually I think we're much closer to a classical description of facism. 

There is also a lot of crony capitalism thrown into the mix.

72 posted on 07/27/2011 7:53:45 AM PDT by zeugma (The only thing in the social security trust fund is your children and grandchildren's sweat.)
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See post 72. It is perhaps best described as a corporate socialism sliding towards something worse.

GE pays no taxes and their CEO travels with the President and gets invited to advisory boards. The Government all but owns GM to support an unrealistic union wage structure. The same union that solely supports one political party.

There is no clear seperation between government and private sector for certain large companies. Look at the revolving door between Goldman Sachs and the White House economic team. Why does Goldman Sachs do so well economically? I am sure they employ lots of smart people but one can’t deny that it helps when “your guys” are making the decisions that lead to so many of those profits.

The politically connected businessmen are doing the best and that erodes the rule of law. The big corporations have former and future employees writing the business laws and regulations that they use to erode their competitors.

America is no longer a level playing field. Those who have the best lawyers, own the most politicians, and play the corrupt system the best win. Those who don’t (often the little guy) lose.


75 posted on 07/27/2011 9:06:25 AM PDT by volunbeer (Keep the dope, we'll make the change in 2012!)
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No, its not socialism or corporations either. The answer is the fasces concept. The proper name is fascism. (No, not the NAZI or evil right-winger kind.) The early description of fascism was a strongly coordinated relationship between government and business. FDR absolutely loved the concept. And as we spiral into another Democratic President inspired economic depression, history seems to be repeating itself.

Corporate America is winning.... they already employ lawyers, accountants, and politicians to maintain compliance. The little guy who does it themselves does not stand a chance in today’s environment.

It appears to me that socialism is winning.

84 posted on 07/27/2011 1:28:16 PM PDT by XHogPilot
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