[EternalVigilance]

Quit borrowing and spending money our grandchildren and great-grandchildren will have to pay back. It’s not complicated.

Every single vote to contract debt that our generation cannot possibly pay is a vote for their enslavement. It is the stripping of our posterity’s God-given right to self-government by consent.

It is the repudiation of the crowning purpose stated by the founders in our Constitution: “to secure the Blessings of Liberty to Posterity.”

[BobL]

“Quit borrowing and spending money our grandchildren and great-grandchildren will have to pay back. It’s not complicated.”

You won’t hear me argue that, but the problem is getting the old-timers to understand that Social Security MUST be turned into a means-tested welfare program (and it will, it’s only a question of whether we have to collapse our country first).

But mention it on this site...the most conservative in the business and you get half the oldies SCREAMING at me, DEMANDING back the money they put in. They could care less if their collective voting wound up getting that money spent real-time and now they have to come after our kids and grandkids.

So you have half of the oldies HERE saying that. You can imagine what the rest of the oldies think (as in 95% of them). And by oldie, even someone who’s worked 20 years feels the same. So what the hell is a politician supposed to do?

That’s why I have 4 years worth of every non-perishable item that I can think of.

[Principled]

EV we all know CCB increases the debt ceiling. None of us likes it. And we would like even less losing the House next fall after gov't spending is cut overnight by nearly half.

I am for CCB because it does indeed provide a reasonable mechanism toward sanity.

Refusing to raise the debt ceiling at all right now would be suicide next fall. I prefer accepting something that will cut some - whatever the dems will take in this environment - then focus on taking the message thru the elections.

So, we are on the same side. Some of us just think the best route would be to win big again next fall. Some of us think that we're being set up to lose our advantage.

I am of the mind that we will be crushed next fall if we cut 44% of government overnight for 15 months. Cutting that much would save us almost 2 trillion in 15 months - but if we take the House, Senate, and White House think what we could do. Alternatively, what if we lose them?