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Is the President Lying About Social Security and the Debt Ceiling?
Townhall.com ^ | July 25, 2011 | John C. Goodman

Posted on 07/26/2011 7:48:43 AM PDT by Kaslin

Apparently he is. And it’s not just me saying it. From across the political spectrum, there has been widespread condemnation of the way the White House is using Social Security checks as a weapon in President Obama’s budget battles with the congressional Republicans.

"I cannot guarantee that those checks go out on August 3rd if we haven't resolved this issue [increasing the debt ceiling]. Because there may simply not be the money in the coffers to do it," President Obama said in a recent interview with Scott Pelley of CBS News.

“When I heard that, I took him at his word.” writes David Henderson at Econlog. “Silly me.” The President is “needlessly scaring the program's fifty-five million beneficiaries” proclaims an article in the liberal Huffington Post. He is guilty of “either deliberately lying or being culpably ignorant of the relevant facts,” says libertarian blogger David Friedman.

The issue is explained nicely by former Social Security Trustee, Thomas Saving in an editorial in The Wall Street Journal. Saving, who is also a colleague of mine at the National Center for Policy Analysis, says Obama’s claim that he could not guarantee that Social Security would be able to send out $20 billion in benefit checks if Congress did not raise the debt limit is completely baseless.

The reason: the way federal government accounting works, the debt ceiling includes not only debt in the hands of the public, but also “bonds” held by such trust funds as Social Security and Medicare. Of course, the bonds in the Social Security trust fund are not real. They were not purchased with money in the marketplace. They are created on a typewriter and kept in a filing cabinet in Parkersburg, West Virginia. Essentially, they are nothing more than IOUs that the government writes to itself. Even so, they count toward the debt ceiling just as much as US bonds held by private investors or the government of China.

When the government pays a dollar of Social Security benefits, it retires a dollar’s worth of (IOU) bonds in the trust fund. To finance the benefit, it issues a real bond and sells it to investors in the credit market. But since the IOU the government wrote to itself counts just as much as the real bond sold to investors, as far as the debt ceiling is concerned, total government debt is unchanged according to the accountants.

Bottom line: the Social Security checks the president threatened to not send to America’s seniors will not push spending closer to the debt limit. “Instead,” says Saving, “by redeeming bonds in the Social Security Trust Fund, the federal government can borrow an equal amount in the credit market and pay benefits without any affect at all on the debt ceiling.”


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: imamof57states; kingofthedeficit; wagyuimam

1 posted on 07/26/2011 7:48:46 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Are his lips moving?


2 posted on 07/26/2011 7:49:49 AM PDT by TruthInThoughtWordAndDeed (Yahuah Yahusha)
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To: Kaslin

Rhetorical question??


3 posted on 07/26/2011 7:50:57 AM PDT by NMEwithin
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To: Kaslin

Nuh uh, my retirement money is in a lock box. Al Gore said so.


4 posted on 07/26/2011 7:51:44 AM PDT by technically right
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To: TruthInThoughtWordAndDeed

ROFLMTO...exactly


5 posted on 07/26/2011 7:51:58 AM PDT by Kackikat
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To: TruthInThoughtWordAndDeed
Is there anything that two-legged dog turd doesn't lie about?
6 posted on 07/26/2011 7:53:26 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Kaslin

The Loon is so strong an example of stupidity that perhaps our vaunted MSM might start asking questions some of us have had for years - such as 1) how did such a demonstrably below average person ever get into Columbia? 2) who wrote his books, since he’s barely literate? 3) Harvard Law? 4) who paid for all that? 5) Birth certificates? Gimme a break, any high school hacker could fake ‘em better, 6) SSN from Connecticut - with another name associated with it.

The only good that has emerged from the Obamaloon is that the MSM has been fully exposed as being even more vapid and stupid than the president.


7 posted on 07/26/2011 7:54:39 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: NMEwithin

*nodding*


8 posted on 07/26/2011 7:55:20 AM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: Kaslin
Is the President Lying About Social Security and the Debt Ceiling?


This HAS to be a rhetorical question - anytime his lips are moving you can be assured he is lying.
I am getting darn tired of the DB LSM telling America that "DEFAULT" is just days away. Default occurs when you stop servicing the debt - we take in between $170 - $200 Billion every month. Servicing the debt takes $29 Billion. How can America not pay it's debt service?
9 posted on 07/26/2011 7:57:09 AM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: Kaslin

The headline could be shortened to: “Is the President Lying? Yes. Yes. Yes.”


10 posted on 07/26/2011 8:00:12 AM PDT by Truth is a Weapon (Truth, it hurts so good.)
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To: Da Coyote

LOL, good questions.


11 posted on 07/26/2011 8:00:26 AM PDT by corlorde (New Hampshire)
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To: Kaslin

Rush was talking about this yesterday. He basically said the same thing, but went further to say that the checks may very well not go out.

They may not go out because El Jefe can stop them from going out. That is the ONLY way to prevent them from getting sent because there is a mechanism in place to to automatically send the checks.

So. If the checks do not get sent, it is 100% because Barry is using them as a weapon to scare the people and bully congress. Like this article says, the money is there.


12 posted on 07/26/2011 8:03:57 AM PDT by Peanut Gallery
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To: Kaslin

John, you’re needed back on the set of “Damages”

This answer to that question is so obvious it doesn’t need discussion.
Of course Obama is lying. You can tell because his lips were moving.


13 posted on 07/26/2011 8:07:28 AM PDT by wilco200 (11/4/08 - The Day America Jumped the Shark)
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To: Kaslin

Obama, “Let me be clear...”

(Yep, he’s lying)


14 posted on 07/26/2011 9:42:54 AM PDT by stevie_d_64 (I'm jus' sayin')
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To: Kaslin

Is the President Lying About Social Security and the Debt Ceiling?

Do you have to ask?


15 posted on 07/26/2011 9:49:36 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (Obama is the least qualified guy in whatever room he walks into.)
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