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Norway gunman fired for 1.5 hours on island
The Daily Republic ^ | July, 23, 2011

Posted on 07/26/2011 6:31:23 AM PDT by Freelance Warrior

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This case raises a question in my mind - why nobody tried attacking that man? While unarmed a crowd of 100 people can run over a single shooter, paying far less deaths than happened there.

Another story in line with this

1 posted on 07/26/2011 6:31:32 AM PDT by Freelance Warrior
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Their training?


2 posted on 07/26/2011 6:39:23 AM PDT by Pecos (Constitutionalist. Liberty and Honor will not die on my watch.)
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To: Freelance Warrior
The expression you are searching for is "FAILED STATE".

The source of the problem, besides the usual ennui and depression found in the higher latitudes is OIL.

Norway has turned itself into a Nordic version of Kuwait ~ a country that cannot defend itself from anybody ~ nor are half of them even in country half the time. Many of the other oil states are like that. Think of Venezuela ~ a handful of crazy people took over the country and handed it over to Fidel Castro.

This one guy might well have had a better opportunity of seizing the country through armed insurrection than we'll ever know, but if you can walk around for an hour and a half shooting Commies in the water, I think that suggests a total dissolution of the social order.

3 posted on 07/26/2011 6:41:33 AM PDT by muawiyah
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Their training?

Whatever training. That's all about morale. That guy was literally slaughtering chicken for 1.5 hours!

4 posted on 07/26/2011 6:43:21 AM PDT by Freelance Warrior (A Russian.)
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They’ve been conditioned not to resist since birth.
Individual heroics would just make you an easier target. They needed a bunch of them to execute a do-or-die charge so that a few of them would reach him. Hard to set up and coordinate while under fire. How many of us could set up a group charge against an armed target, know that most of you will be shot down before you reach him?


5 posted on 07/26/2011 6:47:43 AM PDT by Little Ray (Best Conservative in the Primary; AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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why nobody tried attacking that man

I wasn't there, obviously, but I wondered that a bit myself.

What an emasculated society we've become.

6 posted on 07/26/2011 6:49:59 AM PDT by wbill
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a total dissolution of the social order.

My point isn't actually about this, but about the will and morale of those victims. Too good life make people sissies. I doubt Venezuelians would behave in such way.

7 posted on 07/26/2011 6:51:44 AM PDT by Freelance Warrior (A Russian.)
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Of course, a great case for gun rights.


8 posted on 07/26/2011 6:52:39 AM PDT by McKayopectate
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. How many of us could set up a group charge against an armed target, know that most of you will be shot down before you reach him?

Setting up anything in this case is irrelevant. And yes, that's a question of upbringing what's natural to you - hiding or attack. You just run ahead and shout to encourage others. One hero can ignite a charge.

9 posted on 07/26/2011 6:58:38 AM PDT by Freelance Warrior (A Russian.)
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why nobody tried attacking that man?

These were kids who were brought up in a society that will only give the shooter 21 years in prison for his atrocity.

They probably weren't sure they had the right to stop him!

10 posted on 07/26/2011 7:03:55 AM PDT by poindexter
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"....why nobody tried attacking that man? While unarmed a crowd of 100 people can run over a single shooter...."

Because they are not Americans.
Not a knock on them, but that's not how Europeans think.
I believe if that occured on American soil:
a) Chances are that SOMEONE would have had a gun besides the shooter, and
b) If not, they would grab sticks and rocks and yell: "Let's Roll!"

11 posted on 07/26/2011 7:04:25 AM PDT by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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Again they’ve been conditioned since birth, just like the folks on the planes that hit the Towers and the Pentagon. It was a miracle that Flight 93 had a few heroes aboard.


12 posted on 07/26/2011 7:15:24 AM PDT by Little Ray (Best Conservative in the Primary; AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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A gunman who opened fire on an island teeming with young people kept shooting for 1.5 hours before surrendering to a SWAT team, which arrived 40 minutes after they were called, police said Saturday

And apparently waited until the guy ran out of ammo before coming in to arrest him. The Norwegian elites whose children were at the camp learned that the people they rely upon for protection will not risk their own lives, even for children of the political class. It must have been a sobering realization.

13 posted on 07/26/2011 7:23:40 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (When you've only heard lies your entire life, the truth sounds insane.)
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The Norwegian elites whose children were at the camp learned that the people they rely upon for protection will not risk their own lives

They had a chance to learn it before.

And if those children were meant would-be leaders, now one can see what kind of leaders they promise to become.

14 posted on 07/26/2011 7:36:05 AM PDT by Freelance Warrior (A Russian.)
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Don’t bet on it . It would require the ability to think for oneself to realize that the police will not help you if it endangers themselves.


15 posted on 07/26/2011 7:48:11 AM PDT by Nebr FAL owner (.308 reach out & thump someone .50 cal.Browning Machine gun reach out & crush someone)
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The SWAT Team waited for boats? Don’t the police have access to helicopters?


16 posted on 07/26/2011 8:04:29 AM PDT by DonkeyBonker
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The training they inherently got from being a member of that society. Everyone gets training, both formal and informal. Societal norms are just one mode.


17 posted on 07/26/2011 8:11:18 AM PDT by Pecos (Constitutionalist. Liberty and Honor will not die on my watch.)
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You forget these were “progressive” socialist types. Herd mentality, waiting for their ‘great leader’ to tell them what to do. Acting as an individual is beyond them, even as their kids get gunned down.


18 posted on 07/26/2011 8:14:43 AM PDT by expat1000
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Individual heroics would just make you an easier target.

Wouldn't have stopped a lot of people I've known over the years. They would have tried. Right or wrong, they would have tried. Someone had to make the first move on flight 93...
19 posted on 07/26/2011 8:20:06 AM PDT by expat1000
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Sounds like the camp was teaching these people to become a bunch of Neville Chamberlains.


20 posted on 07/26/2011 8:22:04 AM PDT by dfwgator
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