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Hunt for Britons linked to Norway killer Anders Behring Breivik
The Telegraph ^ | July 24, 2011 | Gordon Rayner, Duncan Gardham and John Bingham in Oslo

Posted on 07/24/2011 2:49:48 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY

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To: justa-hairyape

Exactly.

In response to another post, I don’t think he did this spontaneously. He claims (and I must emphasize that) that he’s been planning this for nine years. Certainly, that’s quite enough time to write a 1,500 page book (most authors can do it in less time), and seeing as how apparently he “borrowed” from other sources, he could probably knock this out in a year or two, depending on how much free time he had.

If THAT’S the case, this is not your average looney-tune we’re dealing with here. This is one cold-blooded premeditated atrocity, and a clearly deranged individual.


21 posted on 07/24/2011 3:56:50 PM PDT by AnAmericanAbroad (It's all bread and circuses for the future prey of the Morlocks.)
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To: AnAmericanAbroad
I started reading it last night as soon as it came it out on the web, and I’m a fairly fast reader (I’m a proofreader and English teacher).

Yes. And you apparently never sleep either. What time is it in Czechoslovakia.....?

22 posted on 07/24/2011 3:57:30 PM PDT by ScreamingFist (Quiet the Idiot)
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To: ScreamingFist
What time is it in Czechoslovakia.....?

It's always Happy Hour somewhere!

23 posted on 07/24/2011 4:02:46 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: AnAmericanAbroad

I don’t understand why more posters have not read the manifesto.

In the final 150 pages the killer goes into extensive detail as he builds the bombs.


24 posted on 07/24/2011 4:05:05 PM PDT by Presbyterian Reporter
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To: ScreamingFist

currently about 1 am. I stayed up till 5 am this morning, then woke up around 9 am, and been up since.

To be fair, I don’t sleep much. Normally, about 4 or 5 hours a day is all I need.

You get so much more done!

:-)


25 posted on 07/24/2011 4:07:45 PM PDT by AnAmericanAbroad (It's all bread and circuses for the future prey of the Morlocks.)
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To: AnAmericanAbroad

As you point out, the bomb and bullets weren’t fictional. I don’t know, obviously. Scotland Yard is taking it pretty seriously.


26 posted on 07/24/2011 4:08:25 PM PDT by OldNewYork
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To: ScreamingFist; Revolting cat!

And nowadays, I’m in Berlin. I’ve been remiss in updating my profile. Same time zone though, UTC +2.


27 posted on 07/24/2011 4:09:11 PM PDT by AnAmericanAbroad (It's all bread and circuses for the future prey of the Morlocks.)
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To: ScreamingFist
Have you seen this?

Hoo, boy. From the first moment, I knew my namesake was going to be featured prominently.

28 posted on 07/24/2011 4:11:13 PM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: OldNewYork

I can’t blame Scotland Yard for at least investigating. They would be foolish not too. Abu Hamza (the Hook), the radical Islamist preacher, isn’t only the kook running around the UK, so when they suspect something may be cooking, it’s better to look into it before it all “goes rather pear-shaped” as the British like to say.


29 posted on 07/24/2011 4:11:53 PM PDT by AnAmericanAbroad (It's all bread and circuses for the future prey of the Morlocks.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
This guy has really set back the conservatives in Europe with his insanity. It is a shame, he had some valid points but now he has smeared them. This is almost like a present all wrapped up with a ribbon to the left.
30 posted on 07/24/2011 4:29:53 PM PDT by dog breath
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To: dog breath

Norway is having elections in September. Before Friday the Conservatives were expected to gain. Now we have to wait to see if this event changes that expectation.


31 posted on 07/24/2011 4:33:42 PM PDT by Presbyterian Reporter
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To: dog breath

what exactly was his point of attacking a mass of white native Norwegian kids on the island ? You would think he would have directed his rage at muslim immigrants . Muslim youth gangs that have been raping white Norwegian women or the like ?


32 posted on 07/24/2011 4:44:12 PM PDT by LeoWindhorse
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To: dog breath

“This guy has really set back the conservatives in Europe with his insanity.”

That’s the idea.


33 posted on 07/24/2011 4:47:31 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT!)
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To: AnAmericanAbroad
For me, the creepy part is when you get a smart psycho (which is what this guy is). That’s rare, as most us have observed that criminals are rather unintelligent (you can find posts on that subject all day long all over the web).

I agree, he is intelligent. He is not insane.

I'll tell you who he most reminds me of: Bill Ayers.

Bill Ayers and the Weathermen were very smart individuals who were willing to inflict mass violence as part of a long-term plan they believed would trigger political change.

Their plan involved bombings of government buildings and killing policemen and military personnel. An undercover agent present at their meetings stated they were willing to kill as many as 25 million Americans to effect their change. They realized it would take decades to realize their plan, and that they would have to make alliances with other radical groups along the way.

But Bill Ayers had an epiphany - he realized the most effective means of change was indoctrination of children over the long term. That is why he then devoted his entire career to influencing what the youth are taught in schools and gaining influence or control over school curriculum.

That is the epiphany that Anders Breivik should have had - that educating the young people of Europe, and de-programming the Marxist indoctrination of them is really the only viable way to effect the change.

The acts of terrorism by Breivik play right into the hands of those he is claiming to oppose.

34 posted on 07/24/2011 5:06:42 PM PDT by Meet the New Boss
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To: Free ThinkerNY

If this is true, then various intellgence agencies should be able to find it out soon enough. Whether “we” would know one way or another, is another thing.


35 posted on 07/24/2011 5:20:48 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: AnAmericanAbroad
You get so much more done!

Yes, I'm sure you do....BTW, what long rifle did the nutjob use?

36 posted on 07/24/2011 5:21:58 PM PDT by ScreamingFist (Quiet the Idiot)
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To: SatinDoll

“This is exactly the kind of tactic Al Qaida would think up.”

Several factors make me wonder if he was linked to Islamic terror groups after all:

1. Methodology of attack had a two-part Mumbai-like signature characteristic of AQ — Bombing followed by sniper attack.

2. Norway has a Islamic terror problem. Just last year a bombing plot was foiled. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/10554523

3. Last week a Radical cleric in custody threaten to kill politicians. http://news.yahoo.com/norway-charges-radical-cleric-death-threats-125824880.html

4. Deception is a stratagem of war. Breivik lied to lure the kids near. Parts of the manifesto are lifted from other documents. Plagiarism is a form of lying. If part is lifted, none may be authentic.

5. In the manifesto he speaks of “contacting investors.” Muslim?

6. AQ has made recruiting “blond, blue eyed” westerners a priority. If they did, they would be expected to make an attack by such a terrorist look like it was inspired by the “right wing”to play into liberal media desire to find examples of “Christian” terrorists. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,328967,00.html

7. Breivik could be like Timothy McVeigh who has been linked to AQ. http://www.jaynadavis.com/highlights.html

8. He excuses the “minor sin” of sex with prostitutes because of the “grace” he will gain from being a martyr. That is an Islamic doctrine.

9. AQ has been training westerners at terror camps in Pakistan. The shootings seem to require professional military training.

10. In the manifesto he reveals that his best friend while growing up was a Pakistani Muslim. While he derides Muslim gangs, he could be lying. He may have been converted to Islam as a youth. http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/europe/07/24/norway.suspect.profile/index.html

11. The Facebook page is in English, he has no friends and was recently posted. Looks like a diversion.

12. The scale of attacks and threats by Islamic terror groups is far greater than any other threat. More than 99 percent of attacks have been by Muslims. So, at first glance we have a 99 percent chance to suspect jihad here as well.


37 posted on 07/24/2011 5:22:47 PM PDT by garjog
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To: AnAmericanAbroad

“[Norway terrorist] Copied Unibomber Manifesto
Sunday, July 24, 2011 6:25:56 PM · 35 of 36
AnAmericanAbroad to garjog”

Goldbugs.

You are the un-ending poster. You can’t skate from time stamps......dude.


38 posted on 07/24/2011 5:49:09 PM PDT by ScreamingFist (Quiet the Idiot)
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To: Presbyterian Reporter
Norway is having elections in September. Before Friday the Conservatives were expected to gain. Now we have to wait to see if this event changes that expectation.

Oddly, I have seen you on prior threads...with Mr. AnAmericanAbroad.......and you mimic his style.....give it up......

39 posted on 07/24/2011 5:53:07 PM PDT by ScreamingFist (Quiet the Idiot)
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To: Presbyterian Reporter
Norway is having elections in September. Before Friday the Conservatives were expected to gain. Now we have to wait to see if this event changes that expectation.

Hmmm. Could he have been acting for the opposition, pretending to be a Conservative, in order to affect the election?

40 posted on 07/24/2011 5:56:20 PM PDT by SuziQ
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