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A campaign film in search of a campaign [ROGER EBERT reviews "The Undefeated" showing in Chicago]
SunTimes.com ^ | July 23, 2011 | Roger Ebert

Posted on 07/24/2011 2:14:33 PM PDT by RonDog

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See also THIS "pre-event" thread:
Exclusive One-Day Screening of 'The Undefeated' in Chicago this Saturday
Motivation Truth ^ | July 20, 2011 | Adrienne Ross
Posted on Wednesday, July 20, 2011 3:36:03 PM by curth


1 posted on 07/24/2011 2:14:41 PM PDT by RonDog
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To: RonDog

“the inexplicable Breitbart. “

Heheh. That’s a keeper. :D

Go Guv Palin!


2 posted on 07/24/2011 2:17:24 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (America First!)
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To: RonDog

You could have put a mild barf alert since it’s nutty Ebert but overall it’s not as snarky as his other stuff


3 posted on 07/24/2011 2:20:10 PM PDT by Bigtigermike
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To: Bigtigermike

Poor Ebert can’t figure out that conservative and republican are 2 different things.


4 posted on 07/24/2011 2:25:27 PM PDT by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: RonDog

I give a crap what libtard Roger Ebert has to say how? =.=


5 posted on 07/24/2011 2:25:51 PM PDT by cranked
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To: onyx; 2ndDivisionVet
I posted this relatively tame review by Roger Ebert primarily so that I could also post THIS comment -- from a person who seems to represent "The Undefeated" TARGET MARKET...
...someone who was neutral/negative to Governor Palin...
...who came out of the movie with a more positive view of her accomplishments.
Raaawb | July 24, 2011 1:38 PM | Reply

I wasn't planning to see this, but a friend invited me to go -- and I'm glad I did. So after seeing it, I was also curious to see if Roger Ebert had, too -- or if he'd somehow managed to skip it.

And so I am glad for this review, even though Mr. Ebert didn't express any outright admiration for what was presented, it feels like there is admirable restraint in covering the material. Maybe a couple of off-handed digs are to be expected. I feel like the film opened my eyes a bit, and so I wonder where, or if, this happened with him as well.

I had little interest in learning about her; I'd already decided on my choice in 2008. Everything about her that fell within my range of sight seemed to say, here's a borderline stupid person who was just chosen as a running mate to bring a bit of excitement into a probably-doomed campaign. Her "you betcha" way of speaking was a bit foreign and almost too clueless-seeming. And, all the comedians I liked, were making fun of her. I wasn't voting for her party anyway; why would I care whether there was more to her?

For me, this isn't so much about whether she ought to be President. I'm not ready to make a judgement about that. But, without digging around to further verify, I assume that much of the documented history told in this film is more or less true, or it'd be quickly shot down by someone -- I feel vaguely resentful that right now is the first I'm hearing about that history.

Maybe a bit stupid on top of resentful, because I never bothered.

I am always happy to see a strong woman making a mark on the world, because for all the trailblazers who have gone before to make it possible, by now there should be so many who are living the life imagined by their "foremothers." From what I've seen here, this is a person who deserves to be admired. What I saw before was only someone who was portrayed as a joke.

Is it true she had an 80% approval rating in her state? Did she indeed bring needed changes to her state, and stare down big oil so that years of neglect were remedied? Did she boldly stand against so much opposition and come out triumphant? Well, that kinda stuff ain't no accident.

Was she chosen as worthy and did she step forward with all good intentions and pride, only to be hammered mercilessly with ridicule? Did we really judge her by her way of speaking and by a few well-repeated unfortunate sound bites, without knowing anything else of her substance?

Perhaps she at least deserves to be considered a modern hero to her home state, because it seems she did rather well by them. The people of Alaska saw her as worthy and she didn't let them down when they needed her. She seems to have a particular skill at looking at something that needs to be made better, and endeavoring to do just that. Could that translate well from Alaska's problems, to the nation's problems? I don't know. Could someone who successfully runs a small company then do the same for a vastly larger one? That's a good question here. At least, in any case, one must start with the attitude that one can do it, and maintain unflagging confidence in one's self -- and she does seem to have that.

She endured misogynistic taunts from her opponents in her earlier campaigns and virtually ignored them. She was a citizen turned politician with no roots in politics, and captured her entire state's attention. How often have we ever heard her voice crack? Maybe just a little as she speaks of something she's passionate about, but never in response to being felt "picked on." On that matter, she seems to always remain stoic and undeterred.

So, "Undefeated"? In a personal sense, yes, this looks like someone who doesn't seem defeated at all. Even resigning as Governor after returning, at least as portrayed here, seems like more a necessity for the good of her state. If she returned home after being the subject of nationwide catcalls, she became fair game there, too -- and likely she had many who were willing to take advantage of that -- she decided she couldn't effectively do that job anymore. Not because she didn't want to.

I might not vote for her as President, but I feel a newfound respect for her, and I wish I'd known more of her history before now.

I hadn't wanted to; had no interest in it at all, and before now was never in a situation where my eyes and ears were situated so as to learn about it. I was willing to listen to the jokes and laugh at them, and not look beyond that.

Because of that, I was missing out on what sounds to be a meaningful and inspirational story... and person.

So I wonder, Mr. Ebert -- did you too, find an even grudging respect you hadn't felt before, after seeing this?


6 posted on 07/24/2011 2:31:02 PM PDT by RonDog
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To: curth

ping


7 posted on 07/24/2011 2:31:56 PM PDT by RonDog
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To: cranked
I'm with you.

As I remember, Ebert was right there with members of the left making vile comments about Gov. Palin.

Now, I'm supposed to respect his review of a movie about Palin and all the disgusting attacks she faced?

8 posted on 07/24/2011 2:32:17 PM PDT by Rational Thought
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To: RonDog

We got to see it yesterday and I would love to have the DVD to pass on to Sarah haters who have been fed and swallowed the garbage put out by the lsm.


9 posted on 07/24/2011 2:40:34 PM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: RonDog

“But the film’s favorite bad guys seem to be in the GOP establishment. This seems odd, considering that the target audience is presumably Republicans.”

That’s not odd Mr Ebert. The GOP establishment is a part of the problem. We the people, are sick and tired of them all; the Democrats, Liberals, AND the GOP establishment. They all scratch each others’ back, grease each other’s palms, and cover each other’s rear end. They created the machine. They love the machine. They love spending our money and getting rich by their wheeling and dealing in Washington. Their personal net worth grows by hundreds and some a thousand percent. That’s why they love the status quo. Things have got to change. These people must go.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G96TY5JsV-s


10 posted on 07/24/2011 2:42:58 PM PDT by abcc2011 (Christian and conservative.)
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To: cranked
I give a crap what libtard Roger Ebert has to say how? =.=
LOL!

The folks at Conservatives4Palin.com consider this to be what the lawyers call an "admission against interest" -- since he is so anti-Palin, but still admits in this review that there was a BIG CROWD there, on SHORT NOTICE:

Even Roger Ebert Concedes Almost 200 People Saw The Undefeated in Chicago Today On Short Notice With No Advertising/Open Thread (Update)
Posted on July 23 2011 - 8:25 PM - Posted by: Ian Lazaran

Even Roger Ebert concedes that almost 200 people saw The Undefeated at noon today in Chicago on short notice with no advertising.

So more people went to an event that Governor Palin did not attend in one of the most liberal cities in America than the number of people who went to an event this afternoon in Iowa with Michele Bachmann in attendance...


11 posted on 07/24/2011 2:44:47 PM PDT by RonDog
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To: RonDog

Why someone would even consider the hysterical feminine screeching of this twit as germane to anything is beyond me.

I think he has a stable of young, homosexual men who write his pieces for him now, anyway, all he does is sign off on them and attach his name, or so I have heard. It wouldn’t surprise me.


12 posted on 07/24/2011 2:46:12 PM PDT by rlmorel ("When marching down the same road, one doesn't need 'marching orders' to reach the same destination")
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To: abcc2011
"But the film’s favorite bad guys seem to be in the GOP establishment. This seems odd, considering that the target audience is presumably Republicans." - Roger Ebert

That’s not odd Mr Ebert. The GOP establishment is a part of the problem - abcc2011

Bingo!

As the film documents, Governor Palin has a proven track record against CORRUPTION and RINOSs and "go along, to get along" establishment politicians on BOTH sides.

13 posted on 07/24/2011 2:49:02 PM PDT by RonDog
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To: rlmorel
Why someone would even consider the hysterical feminine screeching of this twit as germane to anything is beyond me.
I understand, but check out THIS COMMENT -- from conservatives4palin.com:
I read the Ebert Review, as well.

People have to understand that Ebert is a radical leftist and a hatemonger. Some of his tweets about conservatives have been so hateful and despicable, that he has had to walk them back. He has also lied about Governor Palin and hates her with every fiber of his being.

The fact that he wrote merely a slightly negative review of the film is very telling. Not even someone as deranged as him was able to trash it.

Imagine the power this film will have on someone who is actually open minded?

I can attest to the power of the film. I have seen it twice now, once in Indianapolis last weekend, and last night in Milwaukee.

People should see this multiple times. You will get more out of it the second time that you did the first.

Also, it's important to support this movie if at all possible. If you are able to make the 2 or 3 hour drive to see it, do so.

By doing this, you give the movie a better chance of staying in that market for a longer period of time, allowing more people to see it. If the movie does well in many individual markets, then it will be more likely to open in other markets, as well.


14 posted on 07/24/2011 2:59:46 PM PDT by RonDog
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To: Bigtigermike

Yes, this review was surprisingly non-committal, virtually non-analytical, and pretty much snark=free.
Maybe it just didn’t present him with much to get hold of.


15 posted on 07/24/2011 3:00:30 PM PDT by supremedoctrine (No need for a tagline, but here it is anyway..........)
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To: RonDog

LOL...that seems to be the opposite of “damning with faint praise”!


16 posted on 07/24/2011 3:06:04 PM PDT by rlmorel ("When marching down the same road, one doesn't need 'marching orders' to reach the same destination")
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To: supremedoctrine

LOL...more likely, he never saw the movie...:)


17 posted on 07/24/2011 3:07:36 PM PDT by rlmorel ("When marching down the same road, one doesn't need 'marching orders' to reach the same destination")
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To: supremedoctrine
"Yes, this review was surprisingly non-committal, virtually non-analytical, and pretty much snark=free."

Lukewarm, I believe that's called.

18 posted on 07/24/2011 3:10:04 PM PDT by YHAOS (you betcha!)
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To: rlmorel

;)


19 posted on 07/24/2011 3:16:34 PM PDT by RonDog
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To: RonDog

BTW...my comment is not an indictment of your thread posting, just my personal feelings on him.

The guy has always given me the creeps...


20 posted on 07/24/2011 3:18:33 PM PDT by rlmorel ("When marching down the same road, one doesn't need 'marching orders' to reach the same destination")
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