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Talk of Wall Street, commerce making contingency plans for a scenario of a US default put the fear of the Almighty in them to cut a deal NOW!
1 posted on 07/23/2011 1:56:35 PM PDT by lbryce
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To: lbryce

Excatly HOW does the Bonehead and GOP plan to reconcile “the need to cut spending now” with “$3-4 trillion in cuts OVER 10 YEARS”?


2 posted on 07/23/2011 2:05:37 PM PDT by Common Sense 101 (Hey libs... If your theories fly in the face of reality, it's not reality that's wrong.)
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To: lbryce
Oh dear God, GOP, don't snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. Again.

"Don't go all wobbly on me, George" - Margaret Thatcher to then President George H.W. Bush.

3 posted on 07/23/2011 2:06:18 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (Obama is the least qualified guy in whatever room he walks into.)
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To: lbryce

Forget the 10 year cut. We know how that goes. The question is: What’s the cut in 2012. Anything else is just make believe.

And I’m betting the 2012 cuts will be close to zero. Obama wants to spend $1.6 trillion or so that he doesn’t have in 2012. That needs to get carved down by at least $400-$500 billion. I’m not holding my breath.


5 posted on 07/23/2011 2:18:25 PM PDT by InterceptPoint (w)
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To: lbryce

$3-4 TRILLION in cuts over 10 years?

I need a year by year breakdown of exactly how much is cut per year and which specific programs will be cut each year and by how much. Let’s get SERIOUS about this.

Methinks the answer will be backloaded to the extreme. Which means, of course, as it has many times in the past, that few, if any, of the cuts will be made.


6 posted on 07/23/2011 2:19:01 PM PDT by upchuck (A default is not an economic event. It is a political event.)
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To: lbryce

3 to 4 trillion over a decade is pure horse crap. We should be asking for 6 to 9 billion a year for ever until no debt. What the hell is the matter with these fools thinking we buy this crap?


7 posted on 07/23/2011 2:20:08 PM PDT by Logical me
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To: lbryce

OVER 10 YEARS IS FRUAD and all of us know it.....


9 posted on 07/23/2011 2:27:20 PM PDT by stockpirate (Republicans that vote for socialism, support socialists are socialists.)
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To: lbryce

everyone knows that "future cuts" will never ever happen

10 posted on 07/23/2011 2:31:13 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: lbryce

A deal that “could cut” over “10 years”?


13 posted on 07/23/2011 2:35:55 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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Moodys already said they want to see FOUR TRILLION in cuts.

The McConnell "backup" doesn't even reach 2 trillion and was panned by Moodys.

This better be a decent deal. It won't be "great" because it hasn't the "teeth" of a Balanced Budget Amendment and no "10 year deal" has any meaning since one congress can't require the next to spend at certain levels going forward.

Cuts need to be made now and they better be over $100 billion like "Cut, Cap & Balance."

No matter what happens, Obama will spin it as a victory for himself and blame Republicans for anything that goes wrong.

15 posted on 07/23/2011 2:44:24 PM PDT by newzjunkey
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To: lbryce

Why doesn’t he just pressure the Senate to pass the house bill? Why bother to “hammer” out a new one? Spinless wimp a**ed republican leaders.


17 posted on 07/23/2011 2:57:33 PM PDT by calex59
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To: lbryce
He was going to get his increase anyway so $3-$4 trillion is not too bad as long as they only increase the debt for one year. Make Obama have to deal with this again right at election time.
19 posted on 07/23/2011 3:55:23 PM PDT by tobyhill (Real Spending Cuts Don't Require Increasing The Debt)
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To: lbryce

“$3-4 trillion” looks like a big number. Over ten years, eh? The deficit over ten years is about $15 trillion, if they don’t make it higher next year than this year. The government-dependent (nearly all politically involved constituents) are going to suck every bit that they can out of this debt regime toward certain default.


20 posted on 07/23/2011 3:57:27 PM PDT by familyop ("Plan? There ain't no plan!" --Pigkiller, "Beyond Thunderdome")
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To: All; lbryce
http://www.speaker.gov/Contact/

Office of the Speaker
H-232 The Capitol
Washington, DC 20515
Phone: (202) 225-0600
Fax: (202) 225-5117

U.S. Capitol Switchboard, (202) 224-3121

21 posted on 07/23/2011 3:59:24 PM PDT by newzjunkey
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To: lbryce

Over ten years, boner you bastard, you cannot bind future congresses, so knock off the horse shit talk.


26 posted on 07/23/2011 4:22:58 PM PDT by org.whodat (Speaker West, name sounds good.)
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To: lbryce

If the Republicans go for a deal that says $3-4 trillion in 10 years, they are toast. All of this arguing, pain and suffering - for what? For a deal that they could have gotten on day one?

Obama will be glad to guarantee all kinds of “cuts” over ten years. “Cuts” can be defined in any way in a ten-year period. They can be cuts in what Obama will claim he actually wanted to, or needed to, spend. And the best thing is, none of the cuts have to happen this year or next (which is, by the way, an election year). Actually, no real cuts ever have to happen with such a plan. They can disappear when a new president takes office in 2013 or in 2017. No one currently in office has to take responsibility for complying with the promise.

I am going to cut my family budget by $550,000 next year. I’m not going to buy the Bugatti Veyron Super Sports ($2,400,000). Instead, I’m going to settle for the Pagani Zonda Clinque Roadster ($1,850,000). Of course, the fact that I only make $80,000 a year means I will incur some debt. But, hey, I’m showing some real responsibility here.

(Thanks to http://www.thesupercars.org/top-cars/most-expensive-cars-in-the-world-top-10-list/ for the car prices.)


30 posted on 07/23/2011 5:30:56 PM PDT by Rocky (REPEAL IT!)
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To: lbryce

If Boehner doesn’t stand his ground against Reid he can kiss any chance of Republicans making any ground in the next elections. This is the Democrats mess for not passing anything since Obama took over. I will stay home on election day.


31 posted on 07/23/2011 5:38:12 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: lbryce; Nachum
In the mean time the fed union is trying to create another Wisconsin.

http://salsa.afge.org/c/407/p/dia/action/public/?action_KEY=409

Federal Employee Pension Is On GOP Chopping Block

http://www.afge.org/Index.cfm?Page=takeactionAdvocacy

Urgent and New Materials for Fighting Debt Deal

More fear mongering, first social security checks, now making they are freaking about this? I don't see the big deal. The pension plan would still be great. Better than most workers have, they can't have it all. This is reality. But, to scare the disabled and seniors to gain a mob is just wrong and sickening.

35 posted on 07/23/2011 6:56:18 PM PDT by HollyB
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To: lbryce

This reminds me exactly of the TARP debate that was going on in 2008. Everybody thought the sky was going to fall and the world was going to come to an end if they didn’t pass TARP. So they spent 1 trillion dollars based on fear, and the Dow responded by dropping an additional 2,000 points. The economy still has not really recovered, and there’s no evidence that TARP did anything at all to help the economy. Just like TARP, the current Congress is going to pass another bill based on fear.


40 posted on 07/23/2011 8:59:17 PM PDT by Brett11
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