[ngat]

I do not beleive these negotiations are being done in good faith. Politically-minded people have been predicting for months that the demos want, indeed insist on, a government shutdown, so they can play it as being the repubs fault, with the media spinning it that way, of course. Same playbook as ‘95 - ‘96. Nothing new here. Nothing Boehner can do to prevent it, except cave totally, which would accomplish the same thing for the demos.

[9YearLurker]

Yeah, but what’s Boehner doing insisting that the individual mandate be removed from Obamacare?

[eyedigress]

I am of the belief that 40% of the voters have the memory of a moth. 12 more months of being trapped in Bambi’s socialist light fixture should just about get rid of them.

[WOSG]

“I do not beleive these negotiations are being done in good faith. Politically-minded people have been predicting for months that the demos want, indeed insist on, a government shutdown, so they can play it as being the repubs fault, with the media spinning it that way, of course. Same playbook as ‘95 - ‘96. Nothing new here. Nothing Boehner can do to prevent it, except cave totally, which would accomplish the same thing for the demos.”

Well stated.

Nothing good comes from negotiating with Obama. You get a bad deal or you get no deal.

The BEST part of the Congressional republicans behavior has been the push for cut, cap and balance and the vote for it in the House and the Senate. Everything else has been a distraction away from that, as part of the media and Democrats agenda to get the GOP to capitulate.

[Mike Darancette]

Nothing Boehner can do to prevent it, except cave totally, which would accomplish the same thing for the demos.

Of course there is; Boehmer attaches amendment to raise debt limit for $500 million and $1 Billion in cuts to a Senate passed bill the house is holding then send the whole bill back to the Senate.