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To: TonyInOhio
Fact of the matter is that Hussein needs the majority in the House more than he needs the Senate Dems.

He has to win the conservative Repubs...even then he can still get a handful of Dems in the Senate needed to pass this legislation.

It's vote-counting time...and that's what will determine what will pass.

4 posted on 07/21/2011 12:51:08 PM PDT by Siena Dreaming
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To: Siena Dreaming

Not necessarily. You know that communist was willing to take as much time as was necessary to apply as much pressure as was necessary to get enough legislators to cave in to his demand for the health control law. I think you also know the scenario. A terrible compromise is floated and then one by one the critters flip, slide, and surrender to the will of the communist in chief.


21 posted on 07/21/2011 1:04:20 PM PDT by ichabod1 (Nuts; A house divided against itself cannot stand.)
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To: Siena Dreaming

“Fact of the matter is that Hussein needs the majority in the House more than he needs the Senate Dems.
He has to win the conservative Repubs...even then he can still get a handful of Dems in the Senate needed to pass this legislation.”

—If that’s truly the case, then there should be no reason why pressure shouldn’t be put on the “moderate” Senate Dems to accept bigger, *real* discretionary cuts, etc. under any deal (just keep pushing the envelope bit-by-bit to see how much they’ll bend). Shifting baselines around, using long-term estimates, etc. to get to a $3. 7 T number without substantial, real cuts, OTOH, is going to be a hard sell for House Conservatives.

And the last thing anybody wants is for Obama to get away with looking “bipartisan” here if the “cuts” are basically bogus, and long-term, and don’t truly address the debt problem.

(This is mostly about the Gang of Six, and the McConnell Plan, but the idea still holds):

http://www.redstate.com/dhorowitz3/2011/07/21/there-are-no-spending-cuts-without-downsizing-government/


54 posted on 07/21/2011 3:41:56 PM PDT by Qbert ("The best defense against usurpatory government is an assertive citizenry" - William F. Buckley, Jr.)
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