Posted on 07/21/2011 12:33:22 PM PDT by Kaslin
bfl
Ran an experimental garden this year. Learned a lot. In my prior life I ran some cattle and had fruit trees, but I knew squat about gardening. Next year will be better.
Debt free (small-time independent) oil & gas stripper well + farmer/rancher-guy here. It’s a two hour drive to any town bigger than 100k people.
I’ll be fine. Hit me with your best shot.
If it comes to that, nobody is gonna worry about permits, licenses, etc. including me. I’m gonna shoot whatever I want for chow whenever I need it.
And you better not put in a garden in your front yard!
And the rooster gets it.
Alas Babylon was a great Novel! I also recommend Dies the Fire.
The thing as I see it is in any scenario involving Massive Societal Collapse would be in surviving the first month then the next six months. Anybody who survived a year should be able to make it all the way through.
Also if the production of electricity is curtailed or even stopped then really all bets are off. Surviving the first month becomes problematical even the Amish I know would have a difficult time without electricity for their farms.
Their homes may be electric free for the most part. But their businesses? Yeah some of them, not all, are very electric dependent. It’s not a matter of preferences. It’s economic, machines using fuel or electricity are just more efficient than just straight unassisted man power.
Alas Babylon was a great Novel! I also recommend Dies the Fire.
The thing as I see it is in any scenario involving Massive Societal Collapse would be in surviving the first month then the next six months. Anybody who survived a year should be able to make it all the way through.
Also if the production of electricity is curtailed or even stopped then really all bets are off. Surviving the first month becomes problematical even the Amish I know would have a difficult time without electricity for their farms.
Their homes may be electric free for the most part. But their businesses? Yeah some of them, not all, are very electric dependent. It’s not a matter of preferences. It’s economic, machines using fuel or electricity are just more efficient than just straight unassisted man power.
“Could You Survive Another Great Depression?”
Now? Maybe. Gimme a year and it’s a definate yes.
WE do, and we have been. If you don't maintain a sufficient supply here to get by with, you won't be tapping any if outside supplies get cut off. It isn't a question of self-sufficiency--we're farther from that as things are than we've been in decades past. It is a question of having the people, the know-how, the tools, the equipment needed to drill for and produce what we have. There is some 'low hanging fruit' out there, locked away in Federally-owned proscribed areas, and we've developed the skills, tools, and ability to produce oil from formations elsewhere which could not be produced in years past.
With few exceptions, Americans are on the cutting edge in oil production technology, because of what we have developed here, and because of that, we have access to more fuels than ever before if we need them and the government opens up the areas it has closed.
If the dollar tanks, if our money isn't worth the paper it is printed on, we will still have the skills and tools and toolmaking capability needed to supply our energy, even at a reduced rate, which is far better than nothing.
One of my all time Bocephus favorites. CD is in my truck and I crank it when that track comes on ~!
I have a deep water well (over 100 feet deep) that I just put a hand pump on, water seems ok but there are a lot of suspended solids in it. Any idea on how to get those out of the water? My plan right now is to let the water sit in a primary fermenter for a few days. I think that would work but something quicker would be nice. Can’t really afford an expensive filtration system.
People will simply NOT listen to any government figure because respect for such will be GONE.
My grandfather had a car during the Great Depression and he used it to ferry people and supplies around, in the city and out into the country. He got paid a lot of times with foodstuff, like a bushel of corn or beans, maybe a hog or some chickens. He was always looking out for the odd job to do. That helped him and my grandmother to raise 10 kids, including my mom.
AMEN to that!
You know why the South never ran out of gunpowder?
Because they mined the saltpeter in WVA, right under the Union’s nose. Literally. For a few weeks, a Union Division was camped on top of the mine. Production never even slowed.
Sulpher and charcaol you can get anywhere - but saltpeter - well, either find a good mine, or get ready to go outhouse-crawling.
Still, lots & lots of americans have produced their own gunpowder for hunting, using nothing more than “night soil”.
And there is enought lead for balls around (Tire weights) to last generations.
” Can’t really afford an expensive filtration system. “
Plastic funnel (around $1) and generic paper coffee filters (4 or 6 at a time - around $1 for 150 or so) should easily handle suspended solids in otherwise potable water, for drinking water.....
Oh no, now you tell me!
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