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The Clinton Tapes and TWA Flight 800
ackcashill.com ^ | 7-14-11 | Jack Cashill

Posted on 07/19/2011 11:09:24 PM PDT by STARWISE

About once a month over the course of his presidency Bill Clinton would unburden himself to Pulitzer Prize-winning historian Taylor Branch.

Last year, Branch published the taped revelations, heavily edited and embellished with his own commentary, in an overpraised but useful volume called “The Clinton Tapes.”

I say “overpraised” because anyone who knows the underside of the Clinton White House can see how Branch allowed, even encouraged, Clinton to spin a selectively remembered, self-absolving account of his presidency.

I say “useful” because every now and then Branch caught up with Clinton before the White House has had a chance to shape the narrative.

For instance, Branch scheduled a visit with Clinton for the night of April 19, 1995. Earlier that day, a truck bomb took out the Murrah building in Oklahoma City, killing 168 people, most of them federal workers.

Clinton shocked Branch by keeping his appointment. The two old friends talked for hours. The phrase “painful loss” came up between them only in reference to the Arkansas defeat in the NCAA basketball tournament.

Clinton spent but a few minutes on Oklahoma City. The reader learns that the only person Clinton spoke to at the scene was Oklahoma’s “right-wing Republican” governor, Frank Keating. That’s it.

Branch returned to a more cheerful White House a month later. He opens this chapter with a revealing sentence: “Oklahoma City did not lead overseas as President Clinton had feared, but domestic terror did spawn confusion and denial.”

This translates: Clinton did not want the investigation to lead overseas especially when he could exploit the two white, right wing suspects—Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols—for all their political capital.

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TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections
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"Fifteen years later, save for those involved, we still do not know for sure who shot down TWA Flight 800. As at the World Trade Center, as in Oklahoma City, the Taylor Branches of the world did not want to know."

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I'll go to my grave believing there were massive govt coverups for Waco, Oklahoma City and TWA 800 .. and likely the first WTC bombing .. by despicable, deceptive and cunning dems for personal/political considerations. There'll be another justice ....

1 posted on 07/19/2011 11:09:27 PM PDT by STARWISE
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To: onyx; penelopesire; maggief; hoosiermama; SE Mom; Fred Nerks; Red Steel; seekthetruth; ...

.. Ping!


2 posted on 07/19/2011 11:11:41 PM PDT by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker downa)
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Article link for Jack Cashill:

http://www.cashill.com/twa800/clinton_tapes.htm


3 posted on 07/19/2011 11:14:21 PM PDT by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker downa)
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"Said Clinton anti-terror czar Richard Clarke about the connection, 'We do know that Nichols’ bombs did not work before his Philippine stay and were deadly when he returned.'"

That was in his best selling book, I believe.

I thought Clarke also claimed to be the one who came up with the "center fuel tank" explosion thing. Is the massive recall of 747's finished? Wot? There was no recall to inspect for the serious flaw that killed hundreds? They're just going to let the 747s go Boom!

This past Sunday Mr. Cashill was on KSFO San Francisco Barbara Simpson show.

I am sure it was Mr. Cashill and not a caller who mentioned the cable TV and the video of the incident -- the video that some "suits" showed up and took every copy and warned the TV employees to keep quiet or else. The cable TV I think Cashill said was MSNBC which had just started.

I am sure it was Cashill who said the above but it may have been a caller who claimed to have seen that video in China -- several times.

I think the video showed the rocket(s) tracking the plane and the explosions.

4 posted on 07/19/2011 11:32:59 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: STARWISE
The wife of a friend used to be a flight attendant for TWA (she is still a flight attendant for one of the airlines...American or Delta) and had a number of friends onboard this flight.

She has always claimed that her bosses knew more than they said publicly. She and a number of other TWA employees quit the company in protest of this fact hiding.

If you want to read a fascinating novel based around the Flight 800 Tragedy, try Nelson DeMille's Nightfall. The main characters are a retired NYPD detective and his FBI agent wife, who was a part of the original investigation team. On the fifth anniversary of the explosion, she is meeting with family members of some of the victims and stumbles upon a possible lead in the case. They eventually track down this lead, which will blow the investigation wide open and stun the world. But they first have to pit themselves against a rogue CIA agent (or ex-agent, depending on which of his stories you want to believe) who'd helped bury the evidence five years earlier and will do anything to keep the secret from coming to the light of day.

5 posted on 07/19/2011 11:33:24 PM PDT by Stonewall Jackson (Democrats: "You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.")
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To: STARWISE

I agree.


6 posted on 07/19/2011 11:51:42 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: STARWISE
" .. and likely the first WTC bombing .. "

A friend of my who lives in NYC said that far more Middle Eastern people left the country in a panic after the '93 incident than in 2001. I haven't ever been able to figure out whether that was true or not but he swears by it.

7 posted on 07/19/2011 11:53:09 PM PDT by Rashputin (Obama is insane but kept medicated and on golf courses to hide it)
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To: STARWISE

Dollars to donuts that Jamie Gorelick was involved somehow.

She’s a fixture in every scandal.


8 posted on 07/20/2011 12:05:55 AM PDT by Retired Greyhound
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To: STARWISE

Just how MANY times did Mrs. Clinton say “I Can’t Recall” before she wrote her memoirs?


9 posted on 07/20/2011 12:27:38 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (The liberal press applauded when the NY Times hacked Newt Gingrich's phone calls.)
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To: Retired Greyhound

A friend of mine said he saw the missle track on the 1st report of the evenig news, then it was pulled. I’ve always thought that the plane that went down shortly after take off and blamed on some used oxygen containers was actually a terrorist act.


10 posted on 07/20/2011 12:37:28 AM PDT by Waco (Nominate Palin or forget 2012 you lost)
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To: STARWISE
THE THIRD TERRORIST

The Middle East Connection to the Oklahoma City Bombing

by Jayna Davis

Foreward by David P. Schippers


11 posted on 07/20/2011 12:51:36 AM PDT by TigersEye (Wranglers not Levis. Levi Strauss is anti-2nd Amendment.)
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To: STARWISE

You aren’t the only one.


12 posted on 07/20/2011 12:53:36 AM PDT by conservativebuckeye
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To: STARWISE

Interesting surmises. Clinton certainly did kick the can down the road on terrorism on his watch. His non-response just encouraged Al Qaeda to plan bigger and bigger attacks because they thought the US would not respond.


13 posted on 07/20/2011 12:54:48 AM PDT by Roy Tucker ("You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality."--Ayn Rand)
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To: STARWISE; All

So, they acquired ONE stinger? And shot down ONE plane? And didn’t admit to it? They couldn’t have acquired 2 or 4 of 6 stingers and attacked multiple targets at once, like a intelligent terrorist?


14 posted on 07/20/2011 1:15:21 AM PDT by TwoSwords (The Lord is a man of war, Exodus 15:3)
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To: Rashputin

“.. and likely the first WTC bombing .. “

A friend of my who lives in NYC said that far more Middle Eastern people left the country in a panic after the ‘93 incident than in 2001. I haven’t ever been able to figure out whether that was true or not but he swears by it.”

Yep, they ended up in Michigan and not just Dearborn, either.


15 posted on 07/20/2011 2:50:50 AM PDT by equaviator ("There's a (datum) plane on the horizon coming in...see it?")
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To: Retired Greyhound

The name to follow is Dietrich (Dieter) Snell. Google his name and see what you come up with.


16 posted on 07/20/2011 3:48:26 AM PDT by cumbo78
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To: Retired Greyhound

And I heard her name mentioned, I think here, as a replacement for Holder if he should be forced out.


17 posted on 07/20/2011 4:01:50 AM PDT by Josephat
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To: Retired Greyhound
She’s a fixture in every scandal.

..that's why she is known as "The Mistress of Disaster" in DC circles

18 posted on 07/20/2011 4:23:21 AM PDT by Doogle ((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: Doogle
...if you google The Mistress of Disaster you will be amazed at the extent of her involvement of everything that IS WRONG with the US today.....WHILE SHE IS PAID MILLIONS!
19 posted on 07/20/2011 4:29:03 AM PDT by Doogle ((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: STARWISE
TWA 800 still nags at me after all these years.

But if it were a terrorist attack, some group (or many) would have taken credit for it proudly. The same for OKC.

That nothing has come out after 15 years leads me to dismiss the conspiracy theories, though. It does still nag . . .

20 posted on 07/20/2011 5:00:49 AM PDT by BfloGuy (Keynes said, "In the long run, we are all dead." It was the only thing he ever got right.)
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