So Bachmann loses credibility in your eyes because she voted against raising the debt ceiling? If Congress simply voted against raising the debt ceiling, we would have 1.6 trillion in cuts all at once rather than the measly 100 billion in cuts proposed in this bill.
At this point in time, neither the smoke and mirrors suggestions, and that's all they are, there isn't anything substansive there are all, and the House Bill are DOA. Something WILL have to be done and if the House GOPers all stick together ( yeah and I'm the Queen of England...........Victoria Regina ) and won't budge about raising the debt ceiling, at all, the Senate GOPers WILL cave, yet again. If ALL GOPers don't cave ( and we do NOT hold the Senate, so it won't really help all that much ), the MSM will blame them for what happens and/or catasrophic lies about what will. Obama has the upper hand now, because of that idiot McConnell, which was strengthened today, by four other idiotic GOPer Senators.
Do you really believe that Obama would even sign a Bill, should one get passed in both Houses ( ROTFLMSO ), that didn't raise the debt ceiling, even a wee bit ?