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Cut cap and balance' debt measure passes House
AP ^ | July 19, 2011 | ANDREW TAYLOR

Posted on 07/19/2011 5:53:36 PM PDT by silentknight

The 234-190 vote sends the "cut, cap and balance" plan to the Democratic-controlled Senate, where it has virtually no chance of passing.

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KEYWORDS: bachmann; cutcapbalance; debtceiling; michelebachmann; ronpaul
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To: silentknight
because she wanted health care repealed within the measure.

Without the eventual repeal of 0bamacare we are done for eventually anyway.

It must go or else we are just kicking the can down the road again.

21 posted on 07/19/2011 6:07:11 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Cobra64

Obama framed this issue last week - during his press conference. He said the Republicans and Tea Partiers would vote and pass some silly bills before they pass the real deal.

He framed the issue and Republicans allowed him to frame today’s vote. Calling it a decoy and political ploy.

He said - in the end - he would win.


22 posted on 07/19/2011 6:07:43 PM PDT by silentknight
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To: Cobra64
She endorsed CCB this week only to vote against it.

WHERE IS HER LEGISLATION?

She's nothing but TALK.

23 posted on 07/19/2011 6:08:39 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Coburn is a traitor. Obama loves the Gang of Six.)
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To: newzjunkey

Good point.


24 posted on 07/19/2011 6:10:03 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common anymore.)
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To: wilco200
I really hate the media

Since I moved back to Minnesota this month I haven't reconnected cable and I swear my blood pressure is 20 points lower on the average...

25 posted on 07/19/2011 6:10:28 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: rintense

If I may be permitted to “revise and extend” my previous remarks......

Through the years I have taken great pride in being (jokingly) a Male Chauvinist Pig. But with our Nation in the mess it is now; I can’t wait to spring into action campaigning, raising money and voting for Sarah Palin. Come onnnn, Sarah!


26 posted on 07/19/2011 6:12:33 PM PDT by Tucker39
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To: newzjunkey

Will Levin still be in the tank for MB(my rep)? I think Levin and Hannity supported it along with alot of Tea Party sen. like Rubio and Rand Paul and Demint. They could not do much in the senate so they supported the house.


27 posted on 07/19/2011 6:14:18 PM PDT by Brimack34
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To: silentknight

I’m fine with that too. She made her feeling on it quite clear.

I think I’m starting to understand why so many of our presidential candidates have made sure to put some distance between themselves and elective office.


28 posted on 07/19/2011 6:14:42 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: newzjunkey

What does Ron Paul have to say about it?


29 posted on 07/19/2011 6:14:56 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: silentknight

That has been extremely troubling to me too. While completely wrong in every way on the issues, Zero has absolutely played Pubbies like they’re absolutely lost. It has been a pathetic display by the pubbies. No, it has been horrendous.


30 posted on 07/19/2011 6:15:08 PM PDT by mn-bush-man
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To: Glenn

What do you mean? We want every member on record in both chambers for 2012.


31 posted on 07/19/2011 6:16:51 PM PDT by mwl8787
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To: All

Aren’t there 1 trillion in tax increases in this bill? Or am I confusing it with some other bill?


32 posted on 07/19/2011 6:17:10 PM PDT by riri
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To: silentknight

This bill left a big loophole.


33 posted on 07/19/2011 6:17:40 PM PDT by Indy Pendance
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To: riri

Yes. You are confusing it with the “Gang of Schmucks” plan in the Senate.


34 posted on 07/19/2011 6:18:16 PM PDT by NYCslicker
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To: rintense
I agree with you.

Act is getting so damned tiring! That : "I'M FOR IT", but then voting NO ( supposedly because it didn't go "far enough" ) is just trying to have it both ways and makes her one wishy-washy, spineless hack.

35 posted on 07/19/2011 6:20:59 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: NYCslicker

Thanks, been away from the computer and (half) reading multiple threads playing catch up.


36 posted on 07/19/2011 6:20:59 PM PDT by riri
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To: newzjunkey

“She’s nothing but TALK.”

Well, she has repeatedly, for months, TALKED about the fact that she will vote for no debt ceiling increase that does not repeal Obamacare.

If you were paying attention you would know this.


37 posted on 07/19/2011 6:21:06 PM PDT by NYCslicker
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To: silentknight
Bachmann's statement on her NO vote:

Bachmann Statement on “Cut, Cap and Balance” Vote

Washington, Jul 19 -

Congresswoman Michele Bachmann (MN-06) submitted the following statement to the Congressional Record regarding the “Cut, Cap and Balance” proposal tonight:

Mr. Speaker, I rise in opposition to the motion before us. While I embrace the principles of Cut, Cap and Balance, the motion does not go far enough in fundamentally restructuring the way Washington spends taxpayer dollars. The principles found in this bill are a step in the right direction toward the fundamental restructuring we need in the way Washington spends taxpayer dollars.

Along with cutting spending, putting in place enforceable spending caps that put us on a path to balance and passing a balanced budget amendment, we must also repeal and defund ObamaCare.

We must remember that ObamaCare is the largest spending and entitlement program in our nation’s history. That means, at a time when we can least afford it, President Obama added to our spending problem by the trillions. Without its repeal, we cannot have real economic reform.

At a time of trillion-and-a-half-dollar deficits and 9.2 percent unemployment—it was jaw-dropping to hear the President say this past Friday that we need only "modest adjustments" to fix our economy, and to suggest that 80% of the American people want a balanced approach, meaning tax increases, to solve our debt problems.

He also said that, “We don’t need a constitutional amendment to do our jobs.” But we have the problems we do because Washington hasn’t been doing its job. And a Balanced Budget Amendment would have kept President Obama from adding more than 4 trillion to our national debt.

The current negotiations over the debt ceiling illustrate exactly what is wrong with Washington.

We should not continue to spend and borrow trillions that we don’t have just because that’s always the way politicians have done things in the past. Those days are over.

The American people have had enough.

The President needs to stop scaring our military and stop threatening default. Last Wednesday, I co-authored a bill that would remove default as an option and guarantee that our military was paid first. We can meet our obligations, keep our bond rating and keep our promises, but we have to make the tough choices now to turn our economy around and put Americans back to work.

38 posted on 07/19/2011 6:21:13 PM PDT by ejdrapes (Can we keep our attacks focused on the real enemy: Obama)
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To: silentknight
OK. The House has done what needed to be done.

1. They have passed a bill that raises the debt ceiling. The majority of the American people are in favor of that.

2. They have passed a bill that cuts spending. The majority of the American people are in favor of that.

3. They have passed a bill that calls for a balanced budget amendment to the Constitution. The majority of the American people are in favor of that.

And, beyond simple majority assent, all three of the above items are inarguably the right thing to do.

Now. Do they stand their ground?

And will the Senate Democrats actually stand theirs? Will they dare to vote against a bill that does everything they've "asked" for?

And will Obama actually run his "bluff" and veto a bill that does everything he's "asked" for -- simply because it mandates a balanced budget amendment?

Who's on the high ground here, people?

Will they defend it?

We're about to find out...

Tune in next week...

39 posted on 07/19/2011 6:21:51 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: mn-bush-man

That has been extremely troubling to me too. While completely wrong in every way on the issues, Zero has absolutely played Pubbies like they’re absolutely lost. It has been a pathetic display by the pubbies. No, it has been horrendous.


Absolutely hideous. No doubt. As much as I don’t like Trump on the issues, I’d love to hear his take on this week’s Repuke stupidity blitz.

But just wait until next week!


40 posted on 07/19/2011 6:22:04 PM PDT by PaleoBob
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