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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; FredZarguna; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; calcowgirl; ...
RE :”McConnell's trick might be our best hope.The idea is to get Obama to eat one poison pill or another. .......2) Some House conservatives won't vote for it, so if Boehner wants it to pass in the House, he may need Dem votes. If so, I am afraid he will take out meaningful tax cuts, or delay so long that Obama will use the fear of pending economic doom. If all voters were like me, not raising the debt ceiling might be a good idea, but too many are easily manipulated, unfortunately.

This bill will just be the formal surrender of the debt limit fight, especially when Boehner has to round up enough RINOs to vote with Pelosi Democrats to pass it; Much like Germans signing surrender in that French railway car in 1918. And that may very end up being their 'best' option as you, Ann Coulter and FZ all said.

Cantor and others going on TV boasting “We are not going to accept....” over and over looks pretty bad if in the end they will really willing to accept giving Obama a clean debt limit ceiling increase(with no cuts attached) , all while Obama is still on TV telling voters he wants a big deficit reduction bill with trillions of dollars of spending cuts and Republicans keep saying ‘No’. The visuals of Pelosi saying (also claiming cynically) on TV that she wants a big deficit reduction compromise with trillions of dollars of budget cuts but Republicans refuse is pretty pathetic, but this is where the Republican strategy has left them.

There is one more battle ahead maybe, the FY12 budget(FY11 ends in September), but given the last two battles (including this one) there is not much hope that Republicans will accomplish anything.

We would have been better off of Pelosi had held the House with a slim un-workable majority now, and this limit increase would have been her problem now and all Republicans would again vote against it, and Obama would have been a one-termer. Republicans have accomplished little or nothing with their victory to go to voters with next year.

261 posted on 07/16/2011 10:58:01 AM PDT by sickoflibs (If you pay zero Federal income taxes, don't say you are paying your 'fair share')
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; FredZarguna; stephenjohnbanker; Impy; dools0007world

On a more positive side(maybe) , Newt was on Cavuto/Your world yesterday saying how in 1995 Republicans shut down the government three times and it was wildly popular and Clinton caved under political pressure to Republican demands. He said it should be the ‘model’ for victory now. The guest moderator made some faces, but decided not to challenge him on the story.

See??, 16 years from now Boehner and Canter may recall a huge victory from this as a model for the new Republican congress.


262 posted on 07/16/2011 11:09:11 AM PDT by sickoflibs (If you pay zero Federal income taxes, don't say you are paying your 'fair share')
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