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To: muawiyah

Listen if your own supposed intelligence is the reason you want to cite for being hoodwinked by someone who is more interested in seeking political cover by turning over the decision to Obama than doing the things that need to be done and then accepting the political consequences, be my guest.

The only person you are outsmarting is yourself.

Wow. When conservatives are willing to believe this kind of tripe out of their leaders, we really don’t need the Obama’s of the world to lie to us.

We lie to ourselves. Good luck with that.


63 posted on 07/14/2011 6:35:51 PM PDT by NYCslicker
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To: NYCslicker
Frankly you don't know what you're talking about OR, you are a leftwingtard disrupter sent over here to sew dissension in the ranks.

Take your pick.

You can go back over the last couple of days and read ALL the posts on all the threads. At this point it sounds like your listening to a Ron Paul Rant.

65 posted on 07/14/2011 6:41:05 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: NYCslicker
BTW, regarding "hoodwinked" as a category of belief, you really got sucked in. On the first thread yesterday I pointed out where this all came from ~ (McConnell's proposal) ~ and it came from Richard Nixon and Ronald Reagan.

The Supreme Court had already ruled it, in general, UNCONSTITUTIONAL ~ I can put that in namspeak if you want but it shouldn't be necessary.

McConnell already knows that ~ but Obama doesn't, and apparently Harry Reid (who is gradually showing symptoms of having a serious stroke) and Nancy Pelosi got sucked right in ~ they forgot the lawsuits the Democrats filed against two Republican Presidents to prohibit the process as it was (more or less) described by McConnell.

So, your accusations that I was HOODWINKED by any of this is FAR FAR from the target. On the other hand your statement proves that you are probably out of your water on this particular topic.

I've neither recommended McConnell's proposal, nor opposed it. I've simply described it and put it and others like it into an historic context. There's nothing new here ~ particularly not if Thomas Jefferson had thoughts on the matter.

If you can't take it for someone to DISCUSS an issue without being a partisan one way or the other you really haven't got the spleen for much more discussion here.

75 posted on 07/14/2011 7:33:50 PM PDT by muawiyah
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