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To: annelizly
After decades of imposing billions in public health costs on taxpayers, the tobacco industry was finally forced to pay for its sins. But the practical effect was to make states partners with the very industry those states were ostensibly trying to punish

Actually smoking reduces total health care costs. Most smokers do not die of cancer. However, they do die very efficiently from hypertension, Congestive Heart Failure and other smoking related disease. If you look at the total health care dollars for smokers it is less than for the non smokers. Non smokers have a tendency to have hang around for a long time in the end stages of life and that is expensive.

Smoking and the lottery are a tax on the stupid.

6 posted on 07/13/2011 7:43:27 PM PDT by cpdiii (Deckhand, Roughneck, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist, Iconoclast: THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR.)
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To: cpdiii

Smoking and the lottery are a tax on the stupid.


That’s a little harsh. There are plenty of smokers and ex smokers who are smarter than you.

But your point about regressive taxation is pertinent. Obama promised to not raise taxes on anyone making less than $250,000 or a gazillion dollars per year. Yet he hiked the Federal excise tax on cigs to a buck. A tax that disproportionately effects the poor.

Rich smokers like Charlie Sheen, Brittany Spears or Whoopi Goldberg don’t care.


8 posted on 07/13/2011 7:54:19 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (I don't always drink beer, but when I do, I prefer to drink a bunch of them. Stay thirsty my FRiends)
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To: cpdiii

Hmmm...if a pack of smokes costs $11 in NYC and the evil tobacco company makes 40 cents, I’d say that smokers already paid for their medical costs, many times over. And if the smoker has private insurance, the “state” gets off scot-free from paying. The whole “it’s for the chilluns’” ruse is getting old. In almost all states, the tobacco taxes don’t go for care for sick smokers or “reducing” smoking, they go into general revenues. And these states RELY on the tobacco settlement $ as part of their budgets.


9 posted on 07/13/2011 7:56:55 PM PDT by boop ("Let's just say they'll be satisfied with LESS"... Ming the Merciless)
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To: cpdiii
Actually smoking reduces total health care costs.

I would be interested in where the data is for this statement. Not doubting it, and I have heard it said more than once on FR. But I would like the science behind said statement.

Pretty Please.

19 posted on 07/13/2011 10:15:37 PM PDT by LowOiL ("Abomination" sure sounds like "ObamaNation" to me.)
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