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So you are the most powerful person in the world and have all available resources at your disposal and you have to rely on the one template that is now pretty much in the public domain, accessible to everyone with an Internet connection, and the only person you can bet to do your dirty work is an obvious, bush league, second-rate forger?

Wouldn't you go to some other birth certificate, unknown to the public to form your template? In this case as in so much else what people are coming up against is the limit of their own knowledge: we have all seen the Nordyke birth certificate, so it just has to be the basis for the forgery, because we've all heard about it.

Not so long ago, people were saying that Obama's sister's birth certificate was the basis for a forged short form, computerized birth certificate, even though Obama's sister wasn't born in Hawaii. At some point, logic falls away and we turn to what we think we already know, even if it doesn't fit the theories.

Face it: if there is forgery and fraud involved it's got to be done on a very high level and you or I or some "expert" from nowhere wouldn't be the ones to detect it, and if there is "template" for the forgery, it will be something you've never seen.

I wouldn't put it past whoever produced the graphic to stick little curiosities into a fake birth certificate just to rile up the "birthers" -- or indeed to stick little inaccuracies and anomalies into the graphic of an actual legitimate birth certificate, just to make Corsi and WND think they're on to something.

I think it has more to do with the number and being consistent with his other versions. The process of assigning numbers and time of birth. That is why the twins matter. The first COLB was put up on the Internet and amateur in nature.

This seems to be the only way Obama is going to get vetted. The more digging the better.

So you are the most powerful person in the world and have all available resources at your disposal and you have to rely on the one template that is now pretty much in the public domain, accessible to everyone with an Internet connection, and the only person you can bet to do your dirty work is an obvious, bush league, second-rate forger?

As I believe the document to be the product of the State Government of Hawaii, the fact that it was produced by a Second rate forger cannot be helped. They wouldn't allow a First Rate forger near the archives which were needed to make it.

Wouldn't you go to some other birth certificate, unknown to the public to form your template? In this case as in so much else what people are coming up against is the limit of their own knowledge: we have all seen the Nordyke birth certificate, so it just has to be the basis for the forgery, because we've all heard about it.

You may be making a better point than you realize. The Public has SEEN the Nordyke birth certificates. Whatever was produced NEEDED to look like the Nordyke certificates. They certainly didn't use the photo's of them passing around the internet, they may very well have used the Official state copies of them for their template though. If not, one with a similar format and layout.