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To: DiogenesLamp
We have already established that an Adoption decree will cause the state to falsify information, now we are just quibbling over the details.

The place of birth is no detail; it is, in fact, the only thing on the BC that is relevant to a person's citizenship, and the state DOES NOT falsify that.

If I recall properly, she had up to a year to get the child examined by a Doctor.

Then the BC wouldn't list the hospital as the place of birth, and if the birth was registered after a certain number of weeks, it would be marked "delayed."

Since the BC specifically lists a hospital, and the BC isn't marked "delayed," we know for a fact he was born in the hospital and the birth was registered in a timely manner.

Tell me again what they won't put on a birth certificate because they are too honest?

They don't put a false birthplace nor a false birthdate. The only information they are allowed to falsify is the name of the parents and child, and then that only happens if there is an adoption and the court orders it.

35 posted on 07/12/2011 3:14:55 PM PDT by curiosity
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To: curiosity

The birth record on file with the state says the birth occurred at Kapi’olani Maternity and Gynecological Hospital at 7:24 p.m. on August 4, 1961 with David A. Sinclair as attending physician. The parents both signed the birth record on August 7, 1961 and Dr. Sinclair registered the birth with the state of Hawaii on August 8, 1961.

Birth notices appeared in the Vital Statistics sections of the local newspapers on August 13th and August 14th, 1961. So there was obviously no delayed filing of the record of the birth.

Anyone trying to disprove the information above has a very difficult task in front of them.

I believe that the state of Hawaii does have a 50 year old document with the above information on it on file. Whether a birth actually took place at that place, time and date is anybody’s guess. Any 50 year old birth record is hearsay evidence unless there are still alive actual eyewitnesses to the birth.


36 posted on 07/12/2011 4:34:56 PM PDT by jh4freedom (Mr. "O" has got to go.)
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