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To: jonascord
The Navy Aviator is still trying to recreate the Marianas Turkey Shoot. US Navy ships are no longer in the surface ship warfare business. The Gun Club died after WW2. The Navy have only air defense, or are ASW dedicated, and are not in the ship to ship defense business, let alone defending against small craft like the Boghammer, with a one-way-ticket-to-Crazy-Town crew. And remember, even if only one Boston Whaler with a bomb gets through, a CV is out of the plane launching and recovery business while Damage Control fixes things.

Battleships are anachronisms. Surface combate makes use of missiles both Harpoon anti-ship, and SM-2 anti-aircraft with fragmentation warheads that can destroy small craft. Then we have the 127mm /5 inch Mark 45 gun on Us Destroyers and cruisers. Plus these screening ships and the carrier have Phalanx CIWS, RIM-116 missiles. Cruisers, Destroyers, and replenishment vessels in the theater also are quiped with 25 mm bushmaster cannon, specifically to take out small craft.

Consider how much trouble 2 dozen Skinnys in a dhow can cause, when we have to import SEALS to shoot back.
You do understand the difference between blowing the ship out of the water and rescuing a hostage, right?

96 posted on 07/11/2011 12:09:29 AM PDT by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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To: rmlew
"SM-2 anti-aircraft with fragmentation warheads that can destroy small craft."

How much of a radar return does a fiberglass Boston Whaler have, particularly if it has a low freeboard? Both these systems rely on an ECM signature or radar tracking. Do they still drill with using a Mark 1 eyeball over iron sights? It's a common problem, particularly in hi-tech environments, to have the Heinlein syndrome. There are very few environments that are more high tech than the USN.

"If you load a mudfoot down with a lot of gadgets he has to watch somebody a lot more simply equipped - say with a stone axe - will sneak up and bash his head in while he is trying to read a vernier."

I've always wondered if someone has ever worked out a ship board gun director system with image id and tracking, and a low light capability. The Air Force has it, do you suppose they'd share their toy? Time was when the GFC system aboard a ship was the ultimate in high tech. But, when the Black Shoe gunner vanished, so did his systems. Keep it mind, with asymmetrical warfare, the Bad Guy only has to be lucky once.

As an aside, by the time a captain gets permission to open fire from the White House, the threat will have sunk the ship and gone home for supper.

It's tough when giving a weapons free order is contingent on whether a political profit can be made.

99 posted on 07/11/2011 7:18:53 AM PDT by jonascord (The Drug War Rapes the Constitution.)
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