F&F started in Sept. 2009. Here’s the timeline
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2745624/posts
Fair enough. But isn’t the key point that the published text of Holder’s speech in Mexico in April 2009 gives a clear indication that he was aware of plans for the DOJ/ATF/FBI to expand Gunrunner to entail operations both in Mexico and the US—just what became F&F starting 5 months later?