Posted on 07/08/2011 7:43:20 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
You mean like passing laws? Is there a noticeable shortage of them in Minnesota that she should have remedied? Does the silliness of trashing a committed conservative for not expanding government when given the opportunity occur to you?
Legislators are best judged by their votes, not the gladhanding they did or the control they took over people's lives. So, since you seem to be an expert on her state legislative tenure, which votes did she cast that conservatives should object too?
We don’t want members of Congress to pass bills and accomplish things. We want members of Congress who will shut down bad programs and repeal bad laws. No political cheerleader for the current paradigm will get any support or vote from me.
What has she passed this year? How much is she voting while running for POTUS?
Is even more surprising that some people consider such a record and ZERO executive experience as qualifications for the Presidency simply because she is female and cute.
It would be a Chritine O'Donnell fiasco all over again.
Fortunately, there is a high probability that Rick Perry will enter the race and Sarah Palin will endorse him.
Then, finally, this GOP lunacy of considering cute women with no executive experience and pizza chain CEO's with no government experience (but Politically Correct skin color!) and "The Donald" as potential Presidential options against Obama will finally come to a well deserved end.
I’m curious. Who is your candidate?
and not accomplishing anything in s a commie rat congress is a good thing. We don’t want to get along with that nonsense.
Let’s face it, Pawlenty is right.
Bachmann has led an exemplary private life and been successful in operating a business. She has principles, something that is sadly lacking in Washington. And I will vote for her in 2012 because she is more qualified and better than Obama who is destroying this country.
I wish our Republicans would talk about the enemy and their own plans and leave their fellow Republicans alone. At the least, note and criticize specific failings, if you can prove you’d do better, but don’t make these non-specific attacks.
Do you have the slightest memory of late 2008 and early 2009? Do your recall all the so called Republicans and conservative cowering in fear of the Obama juggernaut? Did you notice how Bachmann most definitely wasn't one of them? You never noticed how effective she was fighting the Obama agenda as a member of a weak and disorganized minority? That doesn't earn her "one vote" in your book?
Your challenge is just plain dumb. You throw out this subjective thing about deserving "just one vote" and appoint yourself judge and jury as to what constitutes deserving. It's completely circular, and sort of embarrassing for you and your family. Barone you aint. And apart from that, who that supports conservative values and wishes the conservative vision to triumph, would be motivated to trash and belittle somebody that has been such a trooper for your team? You think there are better candidates (apparently Obama is one of them). Fine. But why the venom?
Perry (if he runs) or Cain would be my next choice.
Heck, I'd even take Pawlenty over Bachmann.
She would be fifth, and maybe not even that. Don't get me wrong, I like her positions, I like her record as a congresscritter.
It's simple, each one of the others has actually run something, accomplished something, and has the executive experience that a president needs.
Being a congresscritter does not prepare you to be an executive, being a congresscritter does not prepare you to be president.
There are several elements one needs to have in a Presidential candidate. Some are important for the candidacy, some for being a success while *in* office.
1) Conservative values. Forget Fiscal Conservative, Social Conservative, Neo Conservative, and all the others. They are as useless as "hypenated-American." We just want CONSERVATIVE.
2) Strong will; leadership. This is important because the role of President is unique. If one is a Mayor or Governor, one gets used to having to fight out power struggles with a legislative branch, but with the whole world watching: the press does not generally cover the internecine battles in the cloak rooms of Congress, nor report much on the back-room deals until the bill is passed.
One must be able to stand up for one's role, but do it in a way which the press cannot twist--or be able to go over the heads of the press to counteract their spin.
3) Charisma / Presence. This ties in with #2 and #4. You need Presence to be taken seriously and Charisma to be liked. Sen. Edwards had charisma (well, at least silky hair) but not presence; Bush had Presence but not Charisma.
4) Electability. People have to be willing to vote for you. Very seldom are elections won merely by voting *against* "the other guy." Carter in 1980, Bush in 2008, perhaps Obaama in 2012 could be exceptions. But Reagan in 1984 certainly had it. People both liked the guy and approved of his positions.
All of the candidates except Palin fall pretty flat on at least ONE of these characteristics.
If Romney were not such a plastic robot, he'd be a shoo-in, even though he is not a movement conservative, because he can hide behind his own religion and play the "reputation for piety" card. Hey, I might not be a "Christian" but I'm the next best; besides, who *doesn't* like the Mormon Tabernacle Choir? Be open-minded...etc.
T-Paw is fair on conservatism (he held the DFL legislature in MN to no tax hikes!), but ranks low on charisma (he has the personality of watching paint dry), and therefore SEEMS like he has no leadership. Also, his name recognition is low as he has no great "signature" issue, so his electability is lacking.
Bachmann is much more of a movement conservative, except that she and her husband worked for the Carter campaign, which will be hard to live down. She talks a good game, and has charisma, or at least hotness. I saw her on RightOnline in Minneapolis, where The Undefeated was screened, and she rounded out her talk with a description of Jonathan and his armour-bearer in the Bible, as an example of fearlessness. But she doesn't have leadership, as she was a tax lawyer, and such people tend to work in packs where nobody can be singled out for blame if something goes wrong -- perfect for Congress, not so good for the White House. Electability is questionable, she can garner attention through her looks, and is making a play for the Huckabee / Palin base, but if Palin comes in, she's toast. And her history of *real* gaffes, as opposed to Palin's press-manufactured gaffes, will get in her way.
Palin. Charisma -- off scale, she revitalized the McCain campaign single-handed, had a successful Cable TV show, is on Fox News from time to time, had a New York Times bestseller list. Evangelical Christian, mostly movement conservatism (pro-life up the wazoo, can you say "Down's Syndrome"?), but with flashes of populism / libertarianism which if played right might pull in some of the middle. Leadership up the yin-yang. Go see The Undefeated for more: and her gutsy move at unexpectedly resigning as Governor of Alaska, not to go lick her wounds, but go on offense, may well be talked about a century from now in poli-sci classes. Electability -- she has the base, she just has to get past the "Hate Palin" beams and false identity painted by the MSM.
I think she can do it, since she is going under the radar (Sarah Palin's Alaska, talks with Bibi Netenyahu, talks overseas in Hong Kong or here in New York to influential businesspeople, her daughter going on Dancing With The Stars and The View do a lot to show her as likable and not the snow-billy prima donna she was mis-sold as by the press.)
Go SARAH!
Cheers!
Yea. It has nothing to do with the fact that she has been carrying the battle flag, through thick and thin, more effectively than just about anybody. It's just that she's a cute gal.
Something comes to mind in response to such an observation. Oh yea. Screw you, you bigoted jackass.
I have stated I like her as a congresscritter.
If you want someone who has absolutely no executive experience....I would point you to the current resident in the white house........
How's that working our for him? Just peachy, right?
“She was elected to her first term in 2006, so in her first two terms Nancy Pelosi and her hench’men’ like Barney Frank were in charge. It’s hardly surprising that she hasn’t passed many bills?”
We already have too many Federal laws that interfere with States rights and delegate authority to departments and agencies. So only introduction, passing, or voting against laws that restrict the power of the Federal government and its agencies are “accomplishments”. In that vane, I suspect she has numerous accomplishments.
Her problem is not her voting record, it’s the mishandling of interviews with libtards. Also in many respects, she comes off as one dimensional as a candidate.
If Palin and/or Perry do not get in, it’s basically between her and Cain. I’m not confident either of them has the mettle it will take to defeat Obummer.
You'd prefer she become the nominee and lose to Obama? That's the risk taken if she isn't criticized.
If the unaccomplished lawyer/legislator Obama isn't qualified to be president, why is the unaccomplished lawyer/legislator Bachmann?
They're opposite sides of the same coin. Both affirmative action candidates for the Oval Office.
If she wants to advance in political office, she can take on Al Franken for Senate. She won't because she'd lose.
All this tells me is that when politicians start/try to play political choices they are in political quicksand as far as public opinion goes’. Much better to just give the public an honest expression of intentions and promote these. I think of Ike Eisenhower when he was running for POTUS. I didn’t vote for Ike but I never doubted his integrity as to any question he answered.
On November 20, 2003, Bachmann and Representative Mary Liz Holberg proposed a constitutional amendment that would bar the state from legally recognizing same-sex marriage. In 2004, Bachmann and a coalition of religious leaders announced plans for a "Minnesota for Marriage" rally. Bachmann’s effort to place a marriage amendment on a referendum ballot in 2004 ultimately failed. She resurrected her proposal in March 2005, but it stalled indefinitely in a senate committee that April.
In November 2004, Republican Senate Minority Leader Dick Day appointed Bachmann as Assistant Minority Leader in charge of Policy for the Senate Republican Caucus. In July 2005, the Republican Caucus removed her from her leadership position. Bachmann said that disagreements with Day over her anti-tax stance were the reason for her ouster.
On June 3, 2008, President George W. Bush signed the Credit and Debit Card Receipt Clarification Act (H.R. 4008) into law. The bipartisan bill, which Bachmann coauthored with Congressman Tim Mahoney (D-FL), removes statutory damages to end "frivolous lawsuits" aimed at businesses.
Bachmann opposed both versions of the Wall Street bailout bill for America’s financial sector. She voted against the first proposed $700 billion bailout of financial institutions, which failed to pass 205–228. She also advocated breaking up Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and barring executives from excessive compensation or golden parachutes. However, she also advocated a plan that would suspend mark-to-market accounting rules and supported suspending the capital gains tax.
After the 2010 elections and the announcement from Rep. Mike Pence that he was stepping away from his leadership position in the House, Bachmann announced on her Facebook page her intention to seek the position of House Republican Conference Chair. As Bachmann is the founder of the House's Tea Party Caucus, her announcement caused some to see the leadership election as "an early test of how GOP leaders will treat the antiestablishment movement's winners". Many among the House's Republican leadership, including Eric Cantor and the retiring Mike Pence, were quick to endorse Rep. Jeb Hensarling for the position; Speaker-to-be John Boehner remained neutral on the issue. Supporters of Bachmann’s run include Reps. Steve King, John Kline, Louie Gohmert, Chip Cravaack, Erik Paulsen, as well as media personality and political commentator Glenn Beck.
You forgot the lifetime marinading in Marxist bromides, and a general cluelessness about how the world really works. That's his problem, not a lack of time behind the desk. It's a problem Bachmann certainly doesn't share.
The notion that years in government are a prerequisite to be an effective president is unproven, and highly questionable. How'd those years shepherding Romney care through work out for Romney?
Lots of people like Bachman.
Pawlenty likes Lady Gaga.
Any questions?
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